Tuesday, 6 December 2022

William Gittens, 1878-5/7/1921.

PLEASE NOTE: William Gittens, being of African descent and born in Barbados, was described in a number of ways by the New Zealand press of his day.  Some words used to describe him are no longer acceptable.  I present them as they were published.


A negro named William Gittens, an able seaman on the steamer Waiwera, was charged with assaulting the chief cook, C. Payne, and the second cook, F. Roberts, on Monday. Evidence was given which went to show that accused had attempted to take some hot water from the galley. The cooks objected, and in the scuffle, which ensued, the second cook's arm was broken, and his head injured. The Bench decided that the parties were equally to blame. Accused in taking the water was following the usual custom. The case was dismissed.   -Press, 17/1/1907.


The fact that a certain city councillor is alleged to have brought his influence to bear to have a coloured man dismissed from the ranks of those employed on the reconstruction of the George street tramway track is expected to cause some discussion at to-morrow night's meeting of the council.   -Otago Daily Times, 13/7/1909.


"A MAN'S A MAN FOR A' THAT."

THE DISMISSED COLORED MAN. 

REINSTATED TO-DAY. 

The circumstances surrounding the dismissal of the colored laborer from the George street tramway works was discovered by the City Council last night. It will be remembered that public attention was drawn to the incident by a paragraph in Monday night's issue of the 'Star.' From the discussion last night it was clear that public talk had put the blame on a councillor who defended himself at great length. 

Rev. V. G. Bryan King wrote re a Star' paragraph stating "that a colored man had been discharged from work under control of the Council owing to nationality." It appeared to be an injustice. The writer understood that the man referred to was named Gittens. If so, he would like to mention that he had known the man since his arrival in Dunedin, and he had always found him a highly-respectable and willing worker. 

The Mayor suggested that the letter be referred to the Tramways Committee for report. 

Cr. Douglas said it had come to his ears (unfortunately not officially) that he was responsible tor the matter. He strongly objected to it going to the Committee. It was a matter that affected him personally, both as a councillor and in a private capacity. He wanted it thrashed out right away. It would be unfair to hang it up for a fortnight. There was a tremendous amount of talk amongst the public, and his name was the one attached to it. 

The matter was subsequently discussed along with the Tramway Committee's report. 

A report of an inquiry which had been made by the city electrical engineer and the chairman of the Tramways Committee was read by the town clerk. The report stated that Ganger L'Estrange, who had been examined, said that the work of the man in question had been equal to that of others engaged in the work, and there were were no objections on the part of the men engaged as to working side by side with Gittens, who was a British subject. The chairman of the Tramways committee had thereupon directed that color was not to interfere with the employment of men upon that work. Gittens was a British subject, and if an opportunity offered he was to be reemployed in that capacity which his ability required.

Another report was read. This was from the city electrical engineer, setting out that Inspector Cross had been given instructions to pay off all incompetent men who did not, in his estimation, come up to the standard required for the work in hand. This rule had been rigidly adhered to, and no exception had ever been made as to race, nationality, color, or any other peculiarity. Further, the report stated that the engineer understood that Cr Douglas went to the works, and stated that white men complained to him that colored men were getting preference over them. The city electrical engineer begged to suggest that the councillor made an error in going to the works, as the complaint should have gone through headquarters.

Cr Douglas chimed that the town clerk had failed in his duty lamentably in not giving him intimation that this matter was coming on. Until yesterday he had not the slightest idea that the local in the paper referred to himself, because, as Mr Cross stated in the engineer's report, he told him when he went on to the works that the man was being paid off for other reasons. He (the speaker) in no way interfered or suggested in any shape or form that the man should have been paid off, even had he still been in employment, he (the speaker) had been unjustly treated by all parties concerned in this matter. The least that was due to him was that the matter should have been brought under his notice. He had got sworn documents, which he read, to prove his innocence that he was in no way responsible for the man being dismissed. The color line was never introduced by him, and he had no knowledge as to who had introduced it.

Cr Burnett, who accompanied Cr Douglas to the works when he took the statements to prove his innocence, said that Cr Douglas had nothing whatever to do with the matter, so far as the evidence went in regard to the man's dismissal. Cr Shacklock was sorry that Cr Douglas had taken so seriously. If he was in public life a few years longer he would have many false accusations made against him. That was the experience of most of them. To his mind Cr Douglas made a mistake in speaking to anybody on the works. If he had wanted to find out whether a colored man was employed on the works he could have done so by merely walking along the footpath and having a look. However, it was not a very serious thing at all. Cr Tapley said that Cr Douglas had sufficiently vindicated himself. He was in no way responsible for the man being dismissed. Cr Douglas had been unjustly drawn into it.

Cr Cole was also pleased that Cr Douglas had cleared himself. He knew the colored man in question well. He was one of the most decent men in the City. He was a naturalised British subject, a member of St. Peter's Church, a leader of the choir, and a member of the Independent Order of Oddfellows. He was glad he was not discharged on account of his color. 

The Mayor said he regretted that he had not communicated with Cr Douglas, but he had been so busy that he had overlooked it. He did not agree with Cr Shacklock; that Cr Douglas was wrong in what he did. He would say, however, that it would be an improper thing for any councillor to interfere with any man in the Corporation service. 

Cr White wanted to know why the man was put off the works. An injustice had been done the man, who was doing a quarter more work than some of the white men there There were men on that work who should never have been there. He hoped that the mayor would see that the colored man got justice, and was reinstated. 

Cr Keast said that Cr Douglas erred in going on the works and interfering. Something must have transpired in regard to this color line for a councillor to go and ask if there was a colored man employed on the track. 

Cr Douglas said that his reason for asking the ganger if there were colored men on the works was because he had walked the whole length of the works and back, and there were no colored men there. 

The next business was then proceeded with. 

The workman in question was reinstated to-day.  -Evening Star, 15/7/1909.


BARBADOES BABU

FRIGHTENS FRAIL FEMALES. 

"Go 'Way, You Black Man!" 

Gittens Gets it Hot. 

William Gittens is a British: subject although he is as black as the ace of spades, being a native of Barbadoes. He has been in Dunedin for some years, and has suffered considerably because of his color. When the City Council were laying down their trams he came prominently before the public, being the central figure in a mewspaper controversy. William was employed on the tramway construction works, but certain parties with influence thought it was a shocking shame that a black man should be allowed to work among white navvies, and William was given the order of the sack. At present William lives at Woodhaugh, and when there's nothing else doing he 

GOES ROUND WITH A HORSE AND TRAP buying such material as marine stores stock — bottles, old metal, etc. On September 30 he was engaged in this occupation, and he made a call at No. 29 Princes-street, Musselburgh, which is tenanted by William James Moody. In the yard he saw about half a hundredweight of old lead pipes and made up his mind to endeavor to purchase them. Just then the lady in No. 27 (Mrs Berry )looked over the fence, and William asked her if Mrs Moody was in. Mrs Berry, desiring to rid Mrs Moody of the black man's company, said she was ill in bed, and William turned to leave, but as he passed what he reckoned was the bedroom window he knocked at it for the purpose of leaving a message about the pipes, and Mrs Moody then appeared at the door. Being told that no business was to be done, William proceeded to Mrs Berry's and asked if she had anything in his line. He was told "No," in 

A VERY SNAPPY VOICE, but, before he could leave the place, his attention was drawn to certain remarks made by Mesdames Berry and Moody, who were talking over the dividing picket fence. William thought they had said something uncomplimentary about him, and he turned back and said that if the females had any disparaging remarks to make about him, he would be obliged if they would unburden themselves of them to his face. Mrs Berry said she would get her husband and sool him on to William, and she went inside for the purpose, Mrs Moody vanishing about the same time. Then William began to express his opinion of the two ladies, and did so with the help of such a string of unpublishable epithets, that he was called on on Monday to face Magistrate Bartholomew on a charge of having used indecent language within hearing of passers-by. He was defended by Lawyer Scurr, who entered a plea of not guilty. 

Mary Jane Moody told the court that William was very polite to her when asking about the pipes. The only reason she could give why William got wild was that he had overheard Mrs Berry say to her that previously to her coming out William had his eyes on the pipes. 

After finishing his examination, Sub-Inspector Phair remarked to the S.M.: I would draw your attention to the fact that 

ACCUSED HAS BEEN STARING at the witness all the time she has been in the box. It must be very awkward for her. 

Counsel: What's that? Just because a man has a black skin may he not look people in the face? It's the worst piece of oppression I know of! 

The S.M. (to William): You had better turn round. 

Annie Harriot Berry confessed in examination that her remark that Mrs Moody was ill was merely intended to get rid of William — for worlds she wouldn't have let him know that she was in. When Mrs Moody came out first she was "in a fearful state," and, during the following conversation, she said she could hardly stand for fright. Mrs Moody also gave details of a terrible fright she had got the night before at the theatre because of a man who was "far from nice looking." When William began his language she (Mrs Berry) 

NEARLY FELL DOWN PROM FRIGHT. Gittens then got going with his version of the tale. He said he was a married main with three children. William is pretty verbose, and in describing his visit to Moody's he said: "I knocked three times, but my knocks were unheard; yet I presumed that the tenant would be in as I heard somebody moving about." When he went to see Mrs. Berry she was "blacking a pair of 'boots by the look of it." Just as he was leaving Mrs Berry's yard he heard her remark to her neighbor: "I could see he 

HAD HIS EYES ON SOMETHING. He spoke to me, but that was only a blind — he was just watching his chance and would have taken the pipes only he saw me." Just before Mrs Berry left to get her husband she called William a black something or other, whereupon he retaliated by telling the frightened female that she was "a ____ object." That was all the "language" he had used, and he didn't say it very loud. In reply to the Sub-Inspector, William said he returned to Berry's because he heard Mrs Berry 

"TANTALISING" HIS CHARACTER. As to the evidence of the ladies, it was "hardly visible" to him that they should tell such lies as they had — the couldn't "reelise" it. Mr Moody had cabled on William's wife and had told her that, if he had been a white man there would have been no trouble, but a black man was ugly enough to frighten anybody. Being informed by the S.M. that he was satisfied that 

"A FILTHY AND DISGUSTING TORRENT OF LANGUAGE" had been used, counsel put in a plea for a monetary penalty. He told how William had borne the best of good characters to date, and was supported in this by the Rev. M. B. G. King, who didn't know anything against Gittens, although he had known him for two years.

The S.M. said it was hardly a case for a monetary penalty, but as William bore a good character, and apparently thought he had a grievance, he would be fined £5.  -NZ Truth, 5/11/1910.


The Conciliation Commissioner (.Mr ,]. R. Tiiggs) sat- this morning to determine a depute, aud to arrange terms for an award (if possible) between the Dunedin Brewers, Bottlers, Bolt ie-washers, and Aerated Waters' Industrial Union of Workers, and the large number of firms cited. It- was decided to strike out of the citation the firms of Moffntt and Co. (Cromwell), Chemical Union. A. Smith, and H. F. Stevens (Dunedin) ; and the following parties were added to the dispute:—Mackcrras and Hazlett, R. Wilson and Co.. Thomson and Co. (Tnvercrgill). Wilson Malt Extract Manufacturers, Irvine and Steven-son, Well Park Brewery. Gregg and Co.. James Neil, •Tc-hn Cleary, William Gittens, and Samuel Evans. No settlement had been agreed upon at 2.30 p.m. A weed's trial of the new parcels post system in the United States resulted in the sending of so large, a number of packages that the Postal Department was unable to supply the demand for the distinctive stamps, without which packages cannot be transmitted. Thousands of telegrams have been r


THE COURTS TODAY

CITY POLICE COURT

Wounding. — William Gittens (for whom Mr Hawkins appeared) was charged with wounding Edward James Skinner with intent to cause him grievous bodily harm, and was further remanded until to-morrow week, the same Bail as before being allowed.   -Evening Star, 12/1/1912.


City Police Court

Alleged Stabbing Case. — William Gittens who appeared on remand, was charged with on December 16, wounding one Edward James Skinner, with intent to do him grievous bodily harm. Mr A. O. Hanlon appeared for the accused, and Chief Detective Herbert conducted the prosecution. — The complainant, Skinner, said he was a butcher on board the Moana, which arrived from Lyttelton about noon on December 16. About 4.15 on the same afternoon he saw the accused on board, and heard him say, whilst passing the door of his own shop, “There’s that dirty butcher again." Without saying anything in reply he went out of the shop and struck accused on the head. The latter then remarked, “I’ll fix you” and walked off, returning four or five minutes later. They both started fighting simultaneously and kept it up for two or three minutes. Witness was most emphatic in his assertion that he got the better of it, repeating the fact several times with an increasing degree of satisfaction. Continuing, he said that accused then went away, and Mr Paul, the second officer, came along, and witness found that he had been cut in the shoulder and was bleeding freely from several places. The police and Dr Evans were sent for, and the latter ordered witness’s removal to the Hospital, where his wounds were dressed. During the encounter he did not notice anything in accused hand. Owing to his injuries he was incapacitated for work for a fortnight. He had known accused for about 12 months, as he was in the habit of coming on board when the ship was in port. About two months ago they had a difference over some matter. — Cross-examined by Mr Hanlon, witness stated that on a previous occasion he accused Gittens of buying ship’s stores and reported the matter to the chief officer. He might have applied certain offensive remarks to accused when he threatened to get him put ashore for buying ship's stores. He admitted having sold an article to a white man for 6s. having previously refused to sell it to accused for a like amount, and welcomed Mr Hanlon's suggestion that, so far from being annoyed, he was pleased when he discovered that the former was acting on behalf of Gittens. At this point, however, witness’s voice rather lacked a genuine ring. In answer to a further question, he stated that, on inquiry, the chief officer was satisfied that the accused had not bought ship’s stores. Ever since the Johnson-Jeffries fight witness had disliked the black, and accused’s black face annoyed him. It was the real Jack Johnson business, and though accused nearly came out on top, he was determined not to let black conquer in that fight. — Mr Hanlon: “You felt you were upholding the honour of the white race?” —Witness (unhesitatingly): “Yes,” and the court was plainly amused. In conclusion, witness stated that during the progress of the fight he was not aware that he was being wounded with a knife. All the same, he would be sorry to see the accused sent to gaol over the matter. — Dr Evans, who attended to Skinner's injuries, gave evidence as to the number, nature, position, and depth of the various wounds on his head and shoulders, and stated that an ordinary pocket-knife such as the one produced, could have inflicted them. — William Paul, second officer on the Moana, stated that on the date in question he had been attracted by loud voices, and on going in the direction from which they proceeded he met the accused. On being asked what was the matter he began to cry loudly, whereupon witness ordered him ashore. He then went on to see Skinner, whom he found bleeding profusely. He saw nothing of the actual assault. — Alexander Campbell, chief officer on the vessel, said that on December 16 accused made some complaint to him about the butcher, but he refused to listen to him, and told him to transact any business he had peacefully or get ashore. As accused began to get excited he ordered him to leave the ship. If he had gone in the way directed there would have been no need for him to pass the butcher’s shop, and the subsequent trouble would have been avoided. — Constable McMillan said that on the evening of December 15 he went to accused’s house in Woodhaugh. He said to him: “It is alleged you stabbed a man on board the Moana.” Accused replied: “ Well, we had a row. He hit me first several times on the head, and I don’t know what I did. This man Skinner has called me all sorts of names at different times, but I am sorry for what has happened.” On being searched at the Police Station in the presence of Detective Connolly, accused said that he had a knife in his hand at the time of the row, and on returning together to his house they found the pocket-knife produced in court in his overcoat. — This evidence was corroborated by Detective Connolly, who added that he saw fresh bloodstains on the knife. Accused told him that when assaulted by Skinner he had been using the knife, and in an endeavour to close it he had shut it on his hand, cutting his right thumb. This cut had been noticed by witness. — Mr Hanlon said he had no hesitation in asking for the dismissal of the case, as no jury would convict accused on the evidence offered, no malicious intent having been proved, and the man having acted only in self-defence. — The Magistrate said that when a knife was used in a quarrel the person using it should only escape, if at all, with difficulty. The present case was a very peculiar one. The complainant had brought the trouble on himself, and he had got no more than he deserved. He was quite certain that no jury would convict accused, as there was only Skinner’s evidence as to what occurred in regard to the actual fight. The wounds were all of a trivial and superficial nature, with one exception, and that was not dangerous. That accused had not attempted to use the knife with malicious intent was proved by the evidence showing that he endeavoured to close it during the initial stages of the fight. Under the circumstances, therefore, he felt it his duty to dismiss the case, which he accordingly did. — The Chief Detective said that if the witness Skinner had been in his normal condition he would have given his evidence in a much more intelligible manner, and perhaps have put a different complexion on the case. He therefore, asked that his expenses be disallowed, a request to which the magistrate acceded.   -Otago Daily Times, 22/1/1912.



INDECENT LANGUAGE.

NEGRO CHARGED. 

A SUBSTANTIAL PENALTY. 

In the City Police Court, before Mr W. R. Haselden, S.M., yesterday morning, William Gittens, a coloured person, was charged with using indecent language on the Jetty street wharf on January 18. —Mr Hanlon, who appeared for the accused, said he pleaded "Guilty," and elected to be dealt with summarily. 

Sub-inspector Foully (producing a written slip): This is the language complained of. 

Mr Hanlon (consulting the accused): That is not the language he says he used. 

The accused said he used some language, but did not consider it was obscene. He would not think of using the language alleged by the police. It was a shame. 

Frank Thrann, night watchman on the wharf, said that at 5.45 p.m. on the date in question he saw the accused on the wharf. He was gathering up some loose pieces of coal and putting them in a bag. Witness told him to stop, and the accused then used the language complained of to him. The words were the same as those shown in the police report. 

Henry Maxwell, plumber, corroborated the evidence of-the previous witness, but stated that there were not many people about. 

Thomas Brookes, railway lifter, said he had heard the language complained of, and there were some pretty severe expressions. Accused used one epithet about 100 times, and was swearing at a terrible rate. 

Mr Hanlon said the accused had pleaded guilty to using indecent language, and the expressions themselves did not make a great deal of difference. He certainly used some bad language, for which, no doubt, he should be punished. A fact that should be taken into consideration, however, was that there were apparently only two or three men about, and he was evidently smarting because he had been forbidden to take away the coal on account of his being a negro. The accused had a wife and five children, and was simply a marine dealer or hawker. 

The Magistrate: Is this the man who was before the court some months ago on a charge of stabbing a white man? 

The Sub-inspector: Yes. 

The accused said that ever since that time people seemed to have shown a prejudice against him. If he was given another chance he would wash his hands of Dunedin. He did not use the language complained of. 

His Worship said the accused was quite wrong as to people being prejudiced against him. Only cranks or abnormal persons took up that attitude. The accused would be fined £5, in default one month's imprisonment. No costs would be allowed.  -Otago Daily Times, 1/2/1913.


OVER 34,000 SOFT DRINKS

AT TAHUNA CAMP. 

In the Magistrate's Court yesterday, before Mr Widdowson, S.M., a case of interest to aerated water makers was brought on. Lanes, Ltd., sued William Gittens, hawker, for the possession of 80 dozen aerated water bottles, value £9 10s, detained by him since the 11th November. 

Mr Calvert, appearing for the plaintiffs, said that the bottles in question belonged to Lanes, and were gathered at the late Tahuna camp. The question for the Court was whether these bottles were still the property of Lanes. It would be shown that there was no sale of the bottles according to the custom of the trade. Since the case of Thomson and Co. v. Phillips the trade had made it clear that the bottles were not sold. A deposit was charged to ensure their safe return. It would be shown in evidence that Gittens admitted that he had in his possession about 60 dozen of Lanes' bottles, supplied to caterers at the late Tahuna camp, and that both caterers used their best endeavors to collect all the bottles, but could not. It would also be shown that Lanes had not parted with the ownership of the bottles either by sale or acquiescence. 

J. P. Lane, one of the plaintiffs, said that his bottles cost wholesale 2s 4d per dozen. They had thousands of bottles in the hands of customers. He always took the bottles into stock. The custom was to take a deposit from customers of ls a dozen. The deposit paid was put against the bottles that were out. When the bottles were returned he credited the customer with the shilling. Everybody in the trade followed that practice. Every invoice bore a notice to the effect that the bottles were not sold. His charge for aerated waters was 1s 6d per dozen. He supplied Moody and Kroon for the Tahuna Park camp. To Mr Moody he supplied 1,257 dozen, and 1,093 were returned; deficit, 164. To Kroon he supplied 1,585 dozen, and 1,318 were returned; deficit, 266. There were 430 dozen short on the two. He allowed Gittens 6d a dozen for bringing the bottles back. Shortly after the camp broke up Gittens called and said he had collected 70 or 80 dozen, but would not bring the bottles in at the usual figure of 6d. He wanted 1s, otherwise he would not bring them in. Witness replied that he would not give 1s. 

Mr Bedford, who appeared for defendant, cross-examined this and other witnesses for teo purpose of establishing that the contract was contained in the circular sent round by Lanes, in which they stated that they sold the aerated waters at 2s 6d per dozen, and made an allowance of ls on the return of the empties; that on the caterers' delivery note. Lanes stated that all empties not returned would be charged for; and that it was only on their invoices, after the sale, when sending their account, that they stated that the bottles were not sold. 

P. W. J. Moody said that he undertook to supply temperance drinks to the Tahuna camp, and bought from Lanes, the terms being 1s 6d a dozen for the drinks, and 1s a dozen deposit on the bottles. He lost many bottles. He had a man on at 10s a day to collect them, and he arranged with the man in charge of the fatigue party cleaning up the camp, 6d a dozen being allowed. They wanted witness to go for the collected bottles; he said it was their place to bring them to him; and next day five bags of the bottles were gone. Saw Gittens in the ground, and saw his cart there, but did not actually see him collecting. Witness fully understood that he was not buying the bottles. 

J. C. Kroon. caterer, said that he had dealt with Lanes for years, and when he bought soft drinks for the camp — he had the tender at £5 a day — he knew he was not buying the bottles There were boys collecting bottles, and he paid them about 6d a dozen. Gittens told witness he had between 60 and 80 dozen. It was Lanes' bottles they were speaking about. Witness offered him 6d a dozen. He said he would not take it. It would be 1s or nothing. 

W. E. Lane, a director of the plaintiff company, said that his firm neither bought nor sold bottles in New Zealand. Gittens had been bringing them bottles for years at 6d per dozen as a charge for collecting. 

This completed the evidence on behalf of the plaintiffs. Mr Bedford applied for a nonsuit on these grounds: — (l) That the property in these bottles was not proved to be in the plaintiffs; (2) that if the property was held to be in the plaintiffs, then the customers were the mercantile agents according to the Mercantile Law Act, and any disposition through them was protected; (3) that even if the property was in Lanes, and even if their customers were not the mercantile agents, there was no right of immediate possession; (4) that if Lanes were the owners of the bottles, and if their customers were not the mercantile agents, even then Lanes could not recover, because there was no right to immediate possession. Lanes' remedy was only against the customer, and then only when Lanes handed over the shilling. 

At this stage the Court adjourned for lunch. 

On resuming, Mr Bedford called William Gittens, who deposed that he collected bottles, buying them at 6d and sometimes 9d a dozen, and he returned them to the firms whose names were shown therein. He returned them when he had a good parcel. He had not sold any to Lanes lately. He got 1s a dozen for Thomson's and Ingram's. He told Lanes that he had about 60 dozen of theirs, and said he would take them in if he got the 1s deposit. They had cost him 9d, and he wanted 3d profit. He did not pick up the bottles in Tahuna Park. He got some from persons in the vicinity of Tahuna Park. He had the major part of the 60 dozen before the camp. He got bottles from Ravensbourne, Green Island, and boarding-houses. He did not until recently get more than 6d for lemonades. He never got more than 6d from Lanes, but did not take them many, and none for a while past. He had recently paid 9d in town and 6d in other places, expecting to receive 1s. He did not buy sacks of bottles at Tahuna and did not pick up any. 

John R. Roxburgh, fruiterer, also called by Mr Bedford, gave evidence that when he bought from Lanes he received the circular above referred to. It was the custom of the retailers to put 1d on for the bottle. They regarded the bottle as bought from the maker and sold to the consumer. 

Legal argument was not finished when the Court rose at 4.30 p.m. It will be resumed at a date to be fixed.  -Evening Star, 9/12/1914.


AERATED WATER BOTTLE CASE.

MAGISTRATE’S JUDGMENT. 

The only business dealt with at the Magistrate’s Court on the 22nd was the deliverance by Mr H. Y. Widdowson, S.M., of the reserved judgment in the case Lanes, Limited (Mr Calvert) v. William Gittens (Mr Bedford). This case was heard on December 8, and the plaintiffs sought to recover possession of 80 dozen aerated water bottles, valued at £9 10s, from the defendant. During the hearing it was alleged that these bottles had been collected at the Expeditionary Force camp at Tahuna Park, the real point at issue was whether these bottles, together with their then contents, were sold when delivered to the plaintiffs’ clients at the came.

Mr Widdowson, after reviewing the evidence tendered at the hearing, said that the question whether the property in the bottles remained vested in the plaintiffs or had passed by sale to their customers would mainly depend upon the terms of the contract made by plaintiffs with their customers. The practice was to send out to storekeepers what was called a delivery ticket along with the goods. Storekeepers also received a circular, and in that circular it was stated that henceforth aerated waters would be charged 2s 6d a dozen, and that an allowance of 1s a dozen would be made for all empties returned. On the plaintiff’s invoices there was a memo: “The bottles in this invoice are not sold, although a deposit may have been taken.” But it appeared that this invoice was delivered only to merchants, and was sent monthly to storekeepers, and all those who paid cash never got this invoice at all. So it was evident that the memo on the invoice could not be invoked to supplement the contract evidenced by the delivery ticket. Different circulars were sent out by plaintiffs to different customers — to merchants, hotelkeepers, and storekeepers — and the one to hotelkeepers made it clear that the charge for bottles was by way of deposit, and it was quite evident that so far as hotelkeepers were concerned the property in the bottles did not pass to them. The circular to the storekeepers, however, did not contain any reference to deposit, and he considered that the words on the circular really contained the terms of the contract, and that under this the bottles were purchased along with the aerated waters. Judgment would he for defendant. 

Mr Widdowson added that as the plaintiff might wish to appeal, leave to appeal on law would be granted on condition that £2 5s (defendant's costs) he paid by the plaintiffs; and his Worship fixed the security at £l2.  -Otago Witness, 30/2/1914.


I.O.O.F.  (excerpt)

The half-yearly Installation meeting of Pioneer Lodge was held in the Rattray Street Hall, Bro. F. Walters, NIG., presiding over a good attendance of members and visitors. Unity Lodge paid an official visit. The decease of Bros. W. Gittens and J. H. Dickel was reported. Funeral benefits were passed, and a minute declaring the sympathy of the lodge was recorded to be conveyed to the widows of these brethren.  -Evening Star, 12/7/1920.


Amusements

GEORGE STREET SCHOOL HALL. 

GRAND BENEFIT CONCERT AND DANCE, 

in Aid of the Wife and Eight Children of the late William Gittens, will be held on THURSDAY, JULY 29th, 1920. Chair to be taken at 7.45 by Rev. Vincent King. Admission; Concert, 1s; Dance — Gents 3s, Ladies 1s.   -Evening Star, 17/7/1920.


BENEFIT CONCERT AND DANCE

An appreciative audience filled the George Street School Hall on Thursday evening last, the object being a concert and dance. The proceeds were in aid of the wife and eight children of the late Mr William Gittens, of Leith Valley. The chair was taken by the Rev. Vincent King. Miss Hilda Balk gave a pianoforte solo, and also played most of the accompaniments. Songs and duets were contributed by Misses L. Smith and Crighton and Messrs T. Bachop and Reid; songs by Miss V. Balk and Mr G. Bennet; humorous items, Messrs P. McCarthy and J. Deaker; musical monologue, Miss Powell; Paul Reno, juggling act; Sergeant H. R. Cole, lightning sketches; Highland dances, the Misses Lorna Budge and May Hungerford; pipe solo, Master Budge. Encores were general throughout the evening. During the interval the chairman sold Mr Cole's sketches to the highest bidders, thus helping to swell the funds. The concert was followed by a dance, the music being supplied by Messrs Newlands and Gibson, and Mr McCarthy acted as M.C. The concert realised about £30, and subscriptions amounting to £100 have been contributed to the fund.  -Evening Star, 31/7/1920.

The Gittens family continued to reside in Patmos Avenue, Leith Valley for a number of years.


Andersons Bay Cemetery, Dunedin.  DCC photo.

13537 Driver Thomas Lawrence Taylor, 29/1/1889-

A SCANDALOUS SCAMP.

Taylor's Terrible Trait. 

Lunatic or Pervert. 

For many months past glaring indecencies of the exposure order have been perpetrated freely from one end of the city to the other, and though police and public alike were on the qui vive, the singular audacity of the perverted scoundrel, and the parts and places he availed himself of, enabled him to steer a clear course. Ladies and young girls were continually confronted by the indecent ruffian, who, from the lengthy period he utilised for his putrid purpose, and his strange equipment, must certainly have been a very clever lunatic, or a moral pervert of a real sinister type. It is not always easy to secure the evidence of ladies in such cases, but, luckily, with public interest, four courageous women appeared against the coward and exposed him 

AS A GUILTY SCOUNDREL. Young boys were also witnesses of his degeneracy, and it was mainly through these, all telegraph messengers, that he was finally pounced upon. 

Thomas Lawrence Taylor appeared in court last Monday, before, Mr. J. R. Bartholomew, S.M., on three charges, he gave his age as twenty-five, and his profession as a baker. It was quite revolting in itself to consider such a monster in the cleanly occupation of the bakery trade! On the first count he was charged with exposing himself in Bond and Crawford-streets to several telegraph boys at night. On these occasions Taylor wore a big overcoat, resembling a policeman's, and, despite the terrible Dunedin weather, nothing underneath but a wretched bathing suit and a long pair of stockings. Thus garbed, night after night, he sallied forth to perpetrate his indecency on women, girls, and young boys. He was at the disgusting game some time, until familiarity with the business encouraged audacity, and he forsook the town belt and the still suburbs for the more exciting dangers of the city streets. Bond and Crawford streets brought him plainly under the notice of the intelligent young telegraph lads, and they fixed him eventually. 

The second count, charged him with exposing himself to two young ladies one evening in Dowling-street. These courageous ladies came forward and tendered evidence. If other ladies who, had observed the scoundrel long ere this, had come forward at the time, he would long ago have been relegated to his proper abode. In regard to the Dowling-street exposure, his attire seemed to have considerably shrunk, as even the bathing suit had disappeared. 

HE HAD NOTHING ON BUT HUMSELF and his enveloping overcoat. Both the telegraph boys and the ladies identified Taylor in court as the culprit. 

The third charge was of a particularly indecent nature, as Taylor availed himself of a leading, well-lit street in the heart of the city, and exposed himself one evening outside a large shop window to two ladies attending inside. He was in his usual indecent, well-ventilated evening dress with the huge overcoat to shield his scandalous effrontery. The two ladies identified their man. 

The prisoner pleaded not guilty, and called three witnesses with a view of establishing an alibi to each charge, but, as the S.M. correctly remarked, their evidence proved nothing, except what was incriminating. 

Inspector Foughy: Taylor is unknown to the police, but from what we gather he appears to have been in Dunedin for eighteen months. Offences of the nature detailed have frequently occurred in town for many months past, and from the many descriptions obtained I am of the opinion that this man was the offender all the time. 

The S.M.: Accused must be convicted, his identity having been established to my satisfaction. Last Friday, I suggested he should receive the attention of a medical man, and this course was adopted. The gaol surgeon examined him, and reports that he is a man of average intelligence. Still something must be wrong with a man who acts in such a degrading manner as he has done. He is evidently a pervert, and the only satisfactory course to pursue in regard to him is to order a period of detention for reformation. Accused will be detained for a period of two years for the purpose of reformative treatment.  -NZ Truth, 20/6/1914.


Thomas Taylor joined the army in 1916, became a driver for the Army Service Corps, got as far as England and was hospitalised with hemorrhoids.  He was invalided home the next year.


Plain-clothes Constable McCulloch arrested on description to-day a man named Thomas Lawrence Taylor, who will be charged with theft of an overcoat from the Central Dining Rooms.  -Evening Star, 4/8/1917.


In the City Police Court yesterday morning, a first offender, charged with drunkenness, was convicted and discharged, while Thomas Lawrence Taylor, charged with a breach of his prohibition order and with obscene conduct, was remanded till Monday.   -Otago Daily Times, 16/11/1917.


SCANTILY CLAD. 

Thomas Lawrence Taylor (Mr J. Batchelor) was charged with having indecently exposed himself last night in Oxford Terrace. 

In asking for a remand Detective sergeant D. Connolly said that the excused had been found wandering about in Oxford Terrace clad only in an overcoat. 

Mr Batchelor applied for bail. 

The Magistrate: There is always an extraordinary position when bail is asked for in cases like this. The circumstances might be such as to make it undesirable to give the man his liberty. However, I can grant bail without injustice. The accused was remanded to appear on Wednesday, and bail was allowed for £500 and two sureties of £250 each.  -Star, 7/3/1924.


INDECENT EXPOSURE 

Thomas Lawrence Taylor (Mr Batchelor) was charged with indecent exposure in Montreal Street and with a similar offence in Cambridge Terrace. He pleaded not guilty to both charges. In defence Mr Batchelor said that accused had been drinking and remembered nothing of the matter. The Magistrate said that it was not the first time he had been up to that. He had been convicted of the same thing in Dunedin. Taylor was convicted and sentenced to twelve months' hard labour on each charge, the sentences to be cumulative.   -Star, 12/3/1924.


REMAND GRANTED

Magistrate's Court 

In the Magistrate’s Court yesterday, before Mr J. G. Warrington, S.M., Thomas Lawrence Taylor, a baker, aged 60, was charged with indecent exposure in a public place. He was represented by Mr W. McAlevey. Taylor pleaded not guilty to the charge, and on the application of Chief Detective Hall he was remanded until Monday next. Bail was granted in his own recognisance of £50 and one surety of a like amount, a condition being that he should report daily to the police.   -Otago Daily Times, 15/4/1950.


Thomas Taylor died at Monticello nursing home for soldiers in 1959.


Andersons Bay Cemetery.  DCC photo.


Saturday, 3 December 2022

Margaret Ellen Cuttle, 1869-24/12/1930


Quarrelsome Neighbors. 

Margaret Cuttle was charged by Mary Tubman with using insulting language to her, and complainant therefore asked that defendant be bound over to keep the peace. Mr Calvert appeared for complainant; Mr Sim for defendant. — Complainant said that she had resided at South Dunedin for two years. Defendant came to reside near witness some two months ago. A day or two ago defendant was throwing stones at witness’s fowls and used most abusive language, calling witness vile names. Witness gave defendant no provocation whatever, but had been greatly annoyed of late by her (defendant’s) conduct. — Evidence was given by several others, after which Mr Sim urged that complainant was the aggressor, and was in every way to blame for the whole affair. — Defendant and a number of witnesses gave evidence, after which the Bench dismissed the case, as it appeared to be simply a neighbors’ quarrel.  -Evening Star, 5/11/1889.


Late Advertisements

WANTED Known, that Margaret Cuttle who appeared at Court yesterday is not wife of Cuttle, furniture dealer.   -Evening Star, 6/11/1889.


An 1895 court case in which Margaret was mentioned concerned her husband and brother in law assaulting her father at the Rainbow Hotel in King st.  From this we find her maiden name - Margaret Jennings. 


Damaging Property and Refusing to quit a Licensed House. 

— Margaret Cuttle was charged that, on the 28th inst. at Anderson's' Bay road, she did damage to a window to the extent of 15s, the property of Francis Gaffney. She was further charged with having refused to leave the licensed premises known as the Bay View Hotel, kept by Mr Gaffney, — Mr Hanlon appeared for accused, and it having been pointed out by Sergeant O'Neill that, as it was a, breach of the Licensing Act, the case required to be heard by the stipendiary magistrate, the charges were remanded to next Thursday, Mr Hanlon offering no objection.  -Otago Daily Times, 2/2/1899.


Four cases were set down for hearing at the Police Court this morning. A first offender was fined 5s for drunkenness, in default twenty-four hours' imprisonment. Mary McKegny, an old offender, similarly charged, was gent to gaol for two mouths. Margaret Cuttle, charged with using obscene language in Ashers right-of-way on Saturday night, was defended by Mr Hay. After evidence and legal argument, the Bench (Messrs J. Duthie and D. Larnach, J.P.s) decided to convict, but held over sentence until hearing a similar charge against Annie Richmond. In the first case Mr Hay unsuccessfully argued that the right-of-way was not a public place, and on the charge against the woman Richmond being called, counsel said that accused would admit using the language, but would plead not guilty to using it in a public place. He intended to have his point decided by the Supreme Court. The Bench said that they would convict in both cases, and fine each accused 40s, or a month’s imprisonment.  -Evening Star, 12/12/1904.


The above account is just one of many, over the years, in which Margaret Cuttle is described as being drunk, disorderly, or both.


CITY POLICE COURT. 

(Before C. C. Graham, Esq., S.M.) Drunkenness. — A first offender was fined 10s, or forty-eight hours and another 5s, with 2s costs.

Trespass. — Elisa Jennings and Margaret Cuttle were charged with being by night on the premises of Mr Macarthur, Russell street, without lawful excuse. — The former, who pleaded guilty, was dismissed with a caution, on condition that she took out a prohibition order against herself. The other defendant, who pleaded not guilty, was defended by Mr Irwin, and was dealt with in the same manner.  -Evening Star, 28/1/1907.


DAUGHTER VERSUS MOTHER. 

At the Police Court this morning Margaret Cuttle was charged with beating her daughter, Nellie Cuttle, with undue severity. — Sub-inspector Norwood said that the charge was laid under the Children’s Protection Act, 1890, section 3. Mr Irwin appeared for Mrs Cuttle. 

Nellie Cuttle, fourteen years of age, stated that about April 13 or 14 she had been sent a message to Mrs Richmond (her aunt) and detained there. On returning late her mother had said: “Come inside and I’ll give you what you don’t want.” She had then been beaten for about an hour with a supplejack across the body, head, and arms. Her breast and arms were much bruised, and there were lumps on her head. That evening, after washing up the dishes, she left the house on her sister’s advice, and went to Miss Davis, in Stafford street. From there she had been brought home by her mother, her hair had been cut off and she had been dressed in boy’s clothes, besides which she received another beating. Her mother also brought the butcher’s boy to look at her, and said: “What do you think of Tommy?” The second beating was inflicted with a strap, and lasted about half an hour. She again ran away to Miss Davis, and subsequently went to the Salvation Army Home. 

To Mr Irwin: Although her father was kind to her, she had not informed either him or her brother as to what had taken place. When she had been taken back from Miss Davis’s house, her aunt had broken in the door, and she had been dragged out by the hair. 

Esther Davis, residing at 98 Maryhill terrace, in giving evidence, denied Mr Irwin’s suggestion that the child had been harbored in what was practically a house of ill-fame. She also stated that the girl's arms and legs were black and blue and swollen.

The matron of the Salvation Army Home stated that, in consequence of a telephone message, she went to a house in Maitland street and took the girl away. That was on April 20. There were then no marks of a beating, except that the right arm was black from the elbow to the wrist. When the child first came to the Home she was very nervous, and started every time she was spoken to. 

Mr Irwin submitted that the case must be dismissed, as the only evidence of illtreatment was that given by the last witness, and the particular bruise might be otherwise accounted for. The girl was unruly, and had gone to a house which her mother did not approve of. If she had been allowed to remain she might have turned out as bad as those who harbored her. It was these people who had taught the girl the story which she had just told to the Court. Mrs Cuttle was anxious to get her daughter info an orphanage, as she was uncontrollable.  -Evening Star, 4/6/1907.


Alleged Cruelty.

DUNEDIN, June 4.

Margaret Cuttle was charged at the Police Court with beating her daughter Nellie, aged fourteen with undue severity. The complainant stated that she had been beaten for an hour with a supplejack across the body and arms, and a second beating with a strap lasted about half an hour. The defence was that the girl was punished, but not excessively for going to houses improperly conducted. The mother had dressed the girl in boys clothing in order to prevent her going to such places. Owing to conflicting evidence the Magistrate dismissed the case, it being understood that the Salvation Army would look after the girl in the meantime.  -Wanganui Herald, 5/6/1907.


At the Police Court this morning, Margaret Cuttle was charged with having been drunk and disorderly, and with having resisted a constable whilst he executed his duty. The evidence showed that the constable had heard her singing, had gone over to silence the music, had been talked at, and had been slapped on the face and bitten on the hand. Defendant pleaded guilty to the first charge, but said she could not have bitten the constable, because she had no teeth. Here the constable looked ruefully at his hand. Sub-inspector Phair said that in consequence of complaints about the language heard in the woman's house the police had been compelled to go to the house on occasions. On the first charge she was fined 40s or fourteen days' imprisonment; on the second 60s or one month's imprisonment. She went to gaol.   -Evening Star, 26/10/1909.


MACLAGGAN-STREET MELEE

ISABELLA'S ALLEGED INCITEMENT. 

Mrs Cuttle's Cumbrous Capers. 

Commotion Caused by the Collapse of Capacious Carissima Cuttle.

The peaceful and holy calm of Maclaggan-street, in the city of Dunedin, was rudely shattered, so to speak, on the 25th of last month, when a fair and fragile lady, Margaret Cuttle, who weighs some seventeen stone, and was carrying home a large cargo of "swankey," refused Constable Mullen's kind invitation to a cab ride to the police station. Margaret so far forgot that she was a lady as to lie down in the street, and, as the constable did not have a steam crane handy, he could not place her in the cab. A big crowd soon gathered round the fair-haired constable and his lovely burden, and began to offer Dinnie's man gratuitous, abusive and unnecessary advice, and also to hustle him, until two of his fellow policemen materialised and conveyed the extensive one to the station.

Constable Mullen thought that in the crowd he saw the fair face of Isabella Jolly, and that Isabella had called out 

TO DUNEDIN'S UNWASHED, the following unladylike words, "Go on, boys, be brave, she's a woman, boys," thus assisting the aforesaid unwashed in a disgraceful disturbance. The police, therefore, sent; Bella a polite little invitation on blue paper, to see Magistrate Bartholomew on Friday last about a charge of "inciting." Bella accepted, and brought along Lawyer Irwin to see that no undue advantage was taken of her innocence. She denied having ever used the objectionable words. Sub-Inspector Phair put on his folders, and looked after the police interests. 

Constable Mullen said he was on duty in Maclaggan-street on October 25th. His attention was attracted by Margaret Cuttle, who was drunk and disorderly. He arrested Margaret, and a crowd gathered. He noticed accused ibn the crowd, and heard her say, "Go on, boys,

BE BRAVE! BE BRAVE!" The effect of this was that some hoodlums hustled him, and caused the prisoner to resist. He was unable to remove the prisoner, and he blew his whistle. A bottle was thrown, and it struck him on the head, and his whistle was pulled out of his mouth. He noticed accused drop a bottle of beer on the ground when she called out. Witness said to her, "I'll have you and the bottle later." He had to give up, as the prisoner Cuttle was a big woman, weighing some seventeen stone. 

Mr Irwin: That's not our fault.

Continuing, witness said Sergt. Eccles and Constable Dunford came and assisted him five minutes later. He could not say from which direction the bottle came.

To Mr Irwin: Other women were making use of expressions, and some were closer than accused. He had no idea how many women were there. They would be about three yards away. 

SOME HOODLUMS CAME closer than that. 

If Mr Moir, the saddler, says that he got between them and you to prevent them from molesting you, would you say he was wrong? — I did not see him. 

He would say that there were no people nearer to him than this accused was. He left Mrs Cuttle lying on the ground whilst he kept the crowd back. He never pushed the accused back. She only called out once. Others in the crowd sung out on him to let Mrs Cuttle go. Mrs Cuttle was singing out and making remarks. She was using indecent language. Mrs Cuttle was charged with assault, drunkenness, and resisting. It was not when he had hold of Mrs Cuttle that the people cried out, ''Let her go." This woman was the only one he identified.

She did not use the words to Mrs Cuttle? — These are the words she used.

Oh, but Mrs Cuttle isn't a boy. Did these words incite Mrs Cuttle to resist? — I could not say she resisted.

Re-examined: Mrs Cuttle was resisting all the time. 

Mr Irwin: Well, that's directly opposite to what he has just said. 

The Sub-Inspector: From the time she used the words, did Mrs Cuttle continue to resist? 

Witness: Yes. 

The Sub: Well, why didn't you say so? 

Mr Bartholomew: What was Cuttle's 

EXACT PHYSICAL POSITION after the words were used?"

She was on the ground. 

What did you do then? - I whistled. 

And then she continued on the ground? -Yes. 

The Sub-Inspector: Was it after the words were used you blow your whistle? — Yes.

How long after? — A minute. 

During this time had you made any effort to put Cuttle in the cab — Yes. 

Robert Fraser, cab proprietor, said that, on the 25th of October, he saw the constable in Maclaggan-street about between 9 and, 10 p.m. The constable was in charge of a drunk woman on the edge of the footpath. There was a good crowd round, but they were not peaceable, and were making use of remarks. He saw accused there; she was at the back of the crowd. When he went to assist the constable, accused mistook him for another cabby, and said: "Well, you ought to do that, Plimister, remember your own sister." Witness saw the constable hit by a bottle, and it came from accused's direction. Accused was making herself conspicuous. The constable had the prisoner in charge when he blew the whistle; this was a good while after witness arrived. He thought it would require three or four constables to handle Cuttle. She did not require to resist,

HER WEIGHT WOULD DO IT. Accused had come round one night with a subpoena, and said, "You did not see me throw the bottle." She referred also so the case, but he could not remember what she said. Witness did not answer, as he wanted to get rid of her.

To Lawyer Irwin: She came along to serve him with a subpoena. He thought she wanted him to give evidence that she had not thrown the bottle.

Sergeant Eccles gave evidence as to assisting the constable to arrest Mrs Cuttle. He did not see accused there in the crowd. Later, he saw her in Walker street with five men, later ('about midnight) in front of the Post Office with one man. She was intoxicated then, and, when witness asked her if she was in Maclaggan-street that night, she denied it.

Mr Irwin said the defence was a denial that accused used the words at all. The defendant, although in the crowd, did not interfere at all. The constable had admitted that Cuttle did not resist after the words were used. He submitted there was no case to answer. 

Mr Bartholomew decided to hear the evidence for the defence. 

Mary Wearne, who 

STAYS IN MACLAGGAN-STREET, said she was not acquainted with accused. She remembered the night of the scene. She saw accused there, but she was not taking any part in the proceedings, and she was not calling out. Witness would have noticed her if she had. The bottle was thrown from the back.

To the Sub-Inspector: Witness was one of the first on the scene. She did not see accused arrive there. It was before the whistle was blown that she saw accused arrive. It was Mrs Cuttle's daughter and sister who were singing out. Witness was between the accused and the constable, side on to the accused. Witness was paying most attention to the constable. It was not possible for accused to use the language without witness noticing, although she was watching the constable.  -NZ Truth, 27/11/1909.


RUSSELL-STREET RELATIONS.

A Keg and its Consequences.

On Thursday week Thomas Henry Cuttle, husband of Margaret Cuttle, the extensive lady who raised an insurrection in Maclagan-street in the saintly city of Dunedin some weeks ago, got in a ten-gallon cask of beer as his Christmas present from his employers, a local brewery firm. The wife of Thomas' "buzzim" invited her sister Annie, who presented her hand and heart to James Richmond, butcher, some few moons or years ago, to gaze upon the noble 10-gallon keg perched upon its classic pedestal. Both the ladies succumbed to the influence of the spectacle, and they invited one of the male species in the shape of James Richmond, lawful wedded wage-earner for Annie, to partake of the fluid, and the result was disaster and a regular Donnybrook Fair. 

Thomas Henry Cuttle, who is no relation of Dickens' Captain Cuttle, but who is husband of the extensive lady referred to, came home to his house and found the ladies in bed "under the influence." Thomas had to make his own tea, and when James blew in later, things were what Comrade Dowdall would call, "only middlin'." 

Constable De la Cour of the big chest and youthful countenance, was patrolling his round on the Thursday night of beer and blood at the unearthly and unpresbyterian hour of 11.13 in Russell-Street, when he "scented the battle from afar," and upon investigation found that things in the "Maison de Cuttle" were not as they should be. The subsequent investigations of the wrestler "'John" caused Thomas Henry to happen along and see Magistrate Bartholomew about a charge of assaulting James Richmond with intent to cause bodily harm, on Monday morning last. 

Thomas Henry duly eventuated, and brought the dapper Lawyer Hawkins along to plead innocence and other things. Sub-Inspector Phair gathered his papers together and said that, with the beak's permission, he would reduce the charge to one of common assault. This was agreed to. 

James Richmond said he was brother-in-law of accused and stayed in Maclagan-street. On the Thursday night he went to Thomas' house in Russell-street to bring home his wife about 7 p.m. Thomas was in the passage and invited him in to have a drink. They had several beers in medium glasses. He couldn't say how many beers he had. Thomas had a cask of it. After surrounding the beer a row started, but he couldn't say how it started and who it was between. Witness was too drunk. Thomas hit him over the head with a stick twice and his wife took him away. He didn't remember much about the occurrence. There had been no previous ill-feeling. Didn't remember if he gave Thomas any provocation. 

To Mr Hawkins: Witness was a butcher out of work and wasn't sacked by his last employer. He had been convicted for drunk and disorderly, drunk, assaulting the police, obscene language, stone-throwing and indecent language. He didn't think himself drunk that night. 

Mr Hawkins: Perhaps you wanted someone to tell you were drunk. 

Witness added that he might have fallen down the stairs in trying to get his wife away. He wasn't drinking with his wife and Mrs Cuttle. They were sitting on the bed, and he didn't know if there was any drink in the bedroom. 

Re-examined: He was positive he was hit with a stick. He had been unwilling to give the police any information and didn't want to come to court, but that wasn't his reason for giving the previous evidence. It wasn't because he wanted to cover up what Cuttle did that he was giving the evidence. 

Annie Richmond, wife of James, said she had been with her sister since the previous night (Wednesday). Thomas arrived home between 5 and 6 p.m. and was sober He worked in Speight's brewery. James blew in about 7 p.m. He and Thomas went into the kitchen and had some drink. Witness was sitting in the bedroom with Mrs Cuttle, who had a bad leg. Thomas and James had a barrel of beer, which had just been brought in that day. The men then went into the front room and had a sing-song. Her hubby got very drunk and started an argument with her. She called in Cuttle to pacify James, but instead of that they started bashing one another. A son of accused kicked James on the head. She and James then started to leave, when Thomas welted James over the head with the stick. James had to be attended to by a doctor. When James left the house, he was "pretty drunk." 

To Mr Hawkins: She didn't drink and Mrs Cuttle wasn't drinking either. After hearing further evidence, which seemed to indicate that the whole affair was a drunken squabble, the S.M. said that Richmond got no more than he deserved. However, he could not see his way clear to dismiss the case without inflicting a small penalty. Accused would be fined 20s, with l0s 6d witnesses' expenses.  -NZ Truth, 24/12/1909.


Police Court

A Vagrant Sestet. — The sequel to a surprise visit paid by Sergeant Thomson and several constables to a house, owned by a man named Kirk, in Walker avenue, at 10.30 p.m. on Monday, was the appearance of two women and four men to answer a number of charges of vagrancy and corelated breaches of the law. — Margaret Cuttle was charged with being idle and disorderly, in that she was found in a house frequented by thieves or persons having no lawful means of support; Mary Kirk with being the occupier of the house; and John Holgate with being incorrigible rogue; Robert Pobar and Thomas Reid with being rogues and vagabonds (the latter having violently resisted arrest); and Christina Lonig with being an idle and disorderly person. — All the accused were remanded till Monday. The women were allowed bail, each in two sureties of £25 and the men, each in two sureties of £50.  -Otago Daily Times, 25/8/1915.


City Police Court

A Disreputable Lot.

— Mary Kirk was charged with keeping a house frequented by reputed thieves and persons having no visible lawful means of support; and Margaret Cuttle, Thomas Reid, John Holland, Robert Pobar, and Christian Long were charged with haying no visible lawful means of support and similar offences. All pleaded "Not guilty." Mr Macdonald appeared for Kirk, Cuttle, Holland, and Long; Mr Scurr appeared for Reid; and Mr Irwin for Pobar. — Sergeant Thomson deposed that, shortly after 11 o'clock on the night of the 23rd inst., he and two constables went to Kirk's house in Walker avenue and heard men inside using obscene language. The doors were locked, but through the kitchen window heseaw the two women inside. When he knocked at the back door Kirk called out: "It's the police; don't let them in; put out the lights." The police forced the door, and Cuttle and Reid tried to get away, but were brought back, and all were arrested for vagrancy. Kirk said: "Don't be too hard, sergeant, they are all friends of mine." Reid was violent, and had to be handcuffed. Pobar gave his name as Miller. At the lock-up Reid said: "If it takes two yeans, I'll do for you, sergeant, if I swing for it." Kirk was a married woman, and her husband was in gaol. — The details as to the arrest were confirmed by Constables Ames and Bandy.— Detective Harmmerly gave evidence as to the bad character of the accused and the convictions recorded against most of them, and a young girl living in Walker avenue said she had seen the accused men visiting Kirk's house several times, day and night, during the past few weeks. — Mr Irwin said there was no evidence against Pobar to show that he was a man without lawful visible means of support. It was admitted that he had been working for his father since his return to Dunedin two months ago. — Evidence was then called to rebut the charge of having no visible means of support. — Robert Pobar deposed he was an umbrella-maker, and had been in Dunedin about two months. His sister sent for him to work for his father, as ho was ill, and unable to carry on his business. He had never in his life been in Mrs Kirk's house before Monday last, when he went at Holland's invitation to see a man who had promised Holland £1 owing him. Reid also went with them. — Four other witnesses gave evidence that Pobar had been at work, carrying on his father's business for the past two months. — His Worship dismissed the charges against Pobar, and admonished him to be more careful of the company he kept. — After hearing a great deal of evidence on behalf of the other accused, his Worship sentenced Reid to 12 months imprisonment on the charge of not having sufficient lawful means of support. Holland, for being found in a house frequented by reputed thieves received a sentence of 12 months' imprisonment. Long, for the same offence, was sentenced to one month's imprisonment. Mary Kirk, for being the occupier of a house frequented by reputed thieves, was convicted and discharged on promising to go to a homo for six months. Margaret Cuttle, for being found in a house frequented by reputed thieves, was convicted and discharged, a sister undertaking to see that she was found a suitable home. All the other charges were withdrawn.  -Otago Daily Times, 31/8/1915.


CITY POLICE COURT

Saturday, December 3. (Before Mr H. Y. Widdowson, S.M.) 

Dismissed Without Comment. 

— Margaret Cuttle was charged with stealing, on December 1, £l0 in money, the property of Francis Smith. — Mr Irwin, who appeared for her, entered a plea of not guilty. — Subinspector Willis said that on Thursday last the accused took to her house in North Dunedin the complainant, a young man who came from the country. He gave her during the evening a £l0 note to buy something wanted for the house. When he wanted his change back she said she had given the money to a Mrs Smith. Mrs Smith, when seen afterwards, denied ever having had the money. The police were called in and after the woman s arrest the missing £l0 was alleged to have been found in Mrs Cuttle’s house. — Francis Smith, sawmill hand, from Tahakopa, said he came in to town last Thursday and put up at the Metropolitan Hotel. He had four single notes and a cheque for £l5, which he cashed for a £l0 note and five singles. He did not know accused, but he met her about 7 o’clock in Maclaggan street. She was in company with her sister, Mrs Richmond. Witness was very drunk, and accepted the woman’s invitation to go to their house in Swan street. They went in a taxi, for which he paid. At the house Mrs Cuttle looked for candles and said she could not find them. She asked for money to buy candles, and all the money he had left at that time was the £l0 note, which he gave her. She found a candle and lit it, but she did not go out of the house at all. He repeatedly asked for the note back, but she would not return it. He refused to leave till he got it. In the morning accused said that she had given the £l0 note to a Mrs Smith, who called at the house about 10 o’clock the previous evening. They went, round to "Mrs Smith’s house, and she denied ever having got the note. Mrs Smith suggested getting the police, and that was done. A detective was also sent for, and they searched Mrs Cuttle’s house, but did not find the money. Accused was taken into custody. Later he received the missing £l0 note from Mrs Cuttle’s son, who said he had found it in the house. Accused was more or less drunk, and they drank two bottles of beer and a bottle of whisky during the evening. Witness paid for the whisky. Accused and her sister had the beer. Witness did not think he was as drunk at 11 o’clock as he was when he went to the house. — To Mr Irwin: When Mrs Smith came in she heard witness asking for the money. He thought he poured out the drink. The note was found after accused had been taken into custody. — Margaret Smith, living in King street, said she went to accused’s house on Thursday evening. She saw the last witness pouring out beer to give Mrs Cuttle. Witness said, “Don’t give Mrs Cuttle beer.” He kept saying to Mrs Cuttle, “Give me back my tenner.” She said she had not got his note. Mrs Cuttle had a note of some kind in her hand. The complainant was “pretty full.” — To Mr Irwin: She did not go to search Mrs Cuttle’s house. — Detective Beer said he had visited accused’s house with Constable Aitchison. Accused admitted receiving a £l0 note from complainant to buy candles, and that she had not bought candles nor returned the note nor any change. She said she had given it to Mrs Smith. The house was carefully searched, and he was satisfied that if the note had been there they would have found it. — Mr Irwin submitted that the case should be dismissed, but the magistrate did not take this view. — Accused giving evidence on her own behalf, admitted getting the £l0 note. She went to sleep, and when complainant demanded the note she told him she had given it to Mrs Smith, and Mrs Smith would give it back. She knew she had given the note to Mrs Smith, and thought Mrs Smith would give it back. — To Sub-inspector Willis: She was considerably under the influence of liquor that evening. — Richard Jennings Cuttle, son of the accused, said he had been present at the dispute over the £l0 note. He and his aunty and sister found the note on the kitchen floor behind the big armchair about 3 o’clock. — William Smith, husband of a previous witness, also gave evidence as to the search and finding of the note. — His Worship dismissed the case without comment.  -Otago Daily Times, 5/12/1921.


DEATHS.

CUTTLE. — On December 24, 1930. at Dunedin, Margaret Ellen, dearly beloved wife of Thomas Cuttle, of 16 Swan street; aged 61 years. R.LP. Private interment. — W. H. Cole, undertaker.  -Evening Star, 24/12/1930.


Andersons Bay Cemetery, Dunedin.  DCC photo.