Alfred Hanlon, in his memoirs titled "Random Recollections," makes an early reference to what he calls the "Submerged tenth" of the population of a city.
"Were all my excursions into the lower stratum of Dunedin to be detailed and minuted here, I might invite a charge of having been injudicious. I moved among all sorts and conditions of people, making it my business to know their ways and temperaments, and whenever possible their motives. I have seen Chinese men and European women at their ease in opium dens, witnessed the drawing of pakapoo banks, stood interestedly by, and not infrequently taken a hand, at the time-honoured pastimes of fan-tan and sing-tai-loo. By these means I learnt for myself about people and things that were to have a significant bearing on my future.
"It is an absorbingly interesting study, the submerged tenth - these ordinary mortals who are so generally recognised as the common "enemies of society." There is nothing very unusual about them - they have no fine passionate, rebellious blood - and among them can be found many good souls, too, the types that would steal with one hand and give away their last sixpence with the other. The customary conventional virtues mean nothing to them, but there is frequently sterling yeomen worth to back up even their sins and shortcomings. To the moralist they are poor stuff, but they comprise the raison d'etre of criminal law, and as such have an incalculable value to the ambitious young lawyer. My explorarions in this sphere, though wide and varied, would certainly have been less fruitful had it not been for a practice, early acquired, of never missing an opportunity of allowing the police to assist me." Young Alf Hanlon would have little trouble obtaining police assistance - his father was a police sergeant.
A Ticket-of-Leave Man. — Peter Sherry was charged with being illegally out of the colony of Tasmania. Detective Tuckwell said he knew the prisoner to have been here nearly twelve months. He had several times seen the prisoner's name and description in the Hobart Town Police Gazette, as a prisoner of the Crown illegally at large, the last time being probably twelve or fifteen months ago. A few days since, he received information, which he should be able to substantiate, that the prisoner came out in the Nile, convict ship, and that he had received a colonial sentence for life. Ann Sullivan stated that she came to Dunedin from Hobart Town with the prisoner, whom she had known six or seven years. She knew that when they first became acquainted, he was a ticket-of-leave man. That morning, between two and three o'clock, the prisoner came into her tent and made a disturbance. While she was in bed, he stood over her with a knife, and swore that he would kill her. The prisoner was remanded until Tuesday Monday, 10th November. -Otago Daily Times, 11/11/1862.
At the Resident Magistrates Court, yesterday, Peter Sherry was again brought up on the charge of being illegally at large from Tasmania, and some evidence having been taken he was further remanded for a week, but admitted to bail. The Magistrate animadverted in strong terms on the conduct of the Tasmanian authorities. It appeared that the prisoner had been in Van Diemen's Land what is there styled "a colonially emancipated man," and had been sent out of Tasmania. If he were to return to that colony he would get six months for going back. -Otago Daily Times, 10/12/1862.
RESIDENT MAGISTRATE'S COURT.
Monday, l0th December. (Before A. Checham Strode, Esq., R.M.)
Alleged Assault. — William Ewin was charged with having assaulted Robert Hago. Complainant not appearing to prosecute, the case was dismissed.
Illegally at Large. — Peter Sherry was charged, on remand, with being illegally at large. After some discussion Mr Weldon asked that the charge be withdrawn, and the prisoner was accordingly discharged. -Otago Witness, 19/12/1862.
STEALING FROM THE PERSON.
Peter Sherry and Ann Jane Sherry, were charged with stealing from the person of Charles Ogilby, on the 7th of August last, two receipts for goods and money, his property.
Mr Barton appeared for the prisoners.
The witnesses were ordered to withdraw.
The Crown Prosecutor having stated the case Charles Ogilby was sworn. He said he was a carrier living at Caversham. He was at the Dunstan on the 7th August, and had delivered goods to two persons named Stait nnd Downie. He first met the prisoners on the evening of the 7th of August, after having discharged his loading. He was accosted by the female prisoner as he was passing, who asked him if he was not going to shout. He had a nobbler of gin at their place; and he asked her to get supper ready for himself and his companion, she agreed to do so; and he brought his horses to the back of the tent in the street. He had about him Ll0l, viz: — three L20 notes, two Ll0 notes, four L5 notes, four sovereigns, and the remainder in Ll notes and silver. His mate and he went in to supper, which being over the former went away. He had two drinks at supper; after which he recollected nothing more. He could only identify one shilling of the money. It was one he had in his possession when he entered the place. He took receipts from Stait and Downie for the goods he delivered to them. He placed them in his waistcoat pocket, and missed them when he became conscious next day, when he saw the receipts in question in the hands of Detective Cassell. His money was all gone.
Cross-examined by Mr Barton: He had had three nobblers between two o'clock and six before going to Sherry's place. The last time he saw his money was at Downie's. He was not playing at cards between four o'clock and ten at night. He did not remember telling two men in the bar at Sherry's that he had lost a box on the road. He paid for the drink out of silver he had in his pocket, but could not swear to the shilling produced. He could not say whether he paid any notes away or not. He intended to have slept in his waggon that night.
Charles Martin, keeper of a skittle alley on the Dunstan, saw the witness, Charles Ogilby, who went into his place about 12 o'clock at night drunk, and in company with the female prisoner, who asked if witness could give him a bed. She said he had a large sum of money in his possession, and wished that it should be given to the witness to take care of. Ogilby put his hand into his pocket, but finding no money the female prisoner put her hand into his pocket also, and withdrawing it said the money was gone, and he had lost it in that place. He denied that it had been lost there. The female prisoner told the prosecutor if he would pay for the drink he should stop with her during the night. She had been drinking, but was capable of taking rare of herself. There were four men in the place, who never hustled the prosecutor, and he was not robbed in his place.
Francis Pearson, a storekeeper at the Dunstan: Knew the prisoner, whose residence was opposite to his store. He remembered about 12 o'clock on the 7th August, at night, that the prosecutor and the female prisoner went into the skittle alley. On their entering Martin's tent, the female prisoner asked Martin it he could accommodate the prosecutor with a bed. He refused, and she called for drinks. He and the other parties in the skittle alley left, and he saw nothing further, until hearing a noise his attention was drawn to it, and he saw the prisoner in charge of the police.
Cross-examined by Mr Barton: He did not know that the skittle alley was the resort of prostitutes. He kept a refreshment tent, but on his oath never was in trouble. When the prosecutor and the female prisoner went in the witness and three men were standing alongside the bar talking.
Joseph Willatt, a miner, resident in the Dunstan, said he knew the prisoners, and also Martin. He was at the skittle alley on the 7th August last. He had been there about five days, having come down from the Arrow diggings. He saw Ogilby and the female prisoner go in to Martin's. He and his two mates and another person were about the middle of the skittle alley. The bar was in the skittle room. On the entrance of Ogilby and the female prisoner the whole four of them went into the side room.
Cross examined by Mr Barton: He could not say why he was chosen to give evidence in preference to his mates. The female prisoner went in first, and was followed by the prosecutor. He was not standing in the doorway when they went in.
John Ousels, a detective officer on the Dunstan, remembered about 20 minutes to 12 on the night of the 7th August. He was passing down the street, when he came to a tent occupied by both prisoners, when his attention was attracted by hearing the female prisoner asking for a "shout." There was a man they called Charley, who paid for the drinks. He heard the male prisoner say, "That's two shillings and a sovereign." Then a half-sovereign was talked about. The male prisoner told the woman to give him so many shillings, and he believed seven shillings were given. Then the prosecutor said to the female prisoner, "I think I know your phizog." He replied, "I think you do, Charley." The female prisoner told the prosecutor he was dropping his money, and she would pick it up for him. He could perceive the motion of their hands through the tent, as they lifted their glasses to drink each other's healths. The female prisoner then appeared to be embracing the prosecutor, who said, "This will never do." A few minutes after, she drew his attention to the fact of his losing his money, and told him it was a ten-pound note, and that if he would give it her she would make it right with him for the night. The prosecutor then kissed her, and they proceeded to count his money, and told it up to L70 — in notes. The male prisoner counted them again, but never included either the L20 or L10 notes. He counted it a third time, and made it L69 The female prisoner then said, "What a lot of money you have got! If it were any other house but this what a chance!" The female prisoner said to the male prisoner. "Put the money in the bag;" when shortly after he said, "Oh, the bag is lost." "Let us look for it," she replied, when he again said, "Oh it's gone, it's gone." He then knew they had got the man's money, and he went to the Camp for assistance. He was not absent from the place more than five or seven minutes. On his way back to the tent the door opened from the inside. It was then closed again and afterwards reopened, when the prosecutor staggered out and turned round to the east side of the tent. The female prisoner followed and took him into the Skittle Alley, between which and the prisoner's tent there was only a small tent. The moment she went in she asked the prosecutor to shout, remarking to Martin that the prosecutor had not less than fifty pounds about him. Almost immediately after, she shouted out the money was gone. The Sub-inspector and he then went forward and arrested the male prisoner, who produced a chamois leather bag, with three sovereigns, two halfsovereigns, a few shillings, and a one pound note in it. Before he was taken away, the female prisoner went in and the tent was searched and behind the bar he lifted up a cowhide and picked up an envelope with two receipts for goods in it. The female prisoner produced a sovereign, a half sovereign, and some silver, which he put back into her pocket. After going some distance the money fell out of her pocket, which the witness picked up, and among the silver was a marked shilling. The prosecutor was taken to the camp for safety.
Cross-examined by Mr Barton: He had not seen his deposition since he signed it. He knew the skittle alley, and knew Miss Clifford, who was barmaid there. It was a place which was closely watched by the police. He never received information from Martin. The reason why he did not at once go into the tent when the money was being counted was that he knew the characters with whom he had to deal, and he thought it better to go and get assistance. The only articles identified were the shilling and the receipts for goods. He could not account for the notes being got out of the tent. From information received through Ann Clifford, he had caused Martin's chimney to be searched, but he never expected the money to have been taken by him. He thought it might have been planted there by the prisoner.
James Burnley remembered on the 7th August taking Ogilby to the Camp, and searching him. He only found two or three fourpenny pieces on him. He saw Ogilby, with his face bleeding, pushed out of the Skittle Alley by Charley, the man. He saw a man walk out of a side door at Martin's, and go in again. He knew Ann Clifford, who was a reputed prostitute, living as barmaid at Martin's, and in consequence of something she had said, search was made on his premises for the money. She left the Dunstan eight days after, and was then in Dunedin.
Mr Barton, for the defence, commented upon some discrepancies in the evidence, and drew attention to the fact that while the tent of the prisoners had been searched, nothing was found in it tending to criminate the prisoners, excepting the two receipts for goods, which were not valuable property. He maintained that neither the character of the witnesses, nor the evidence given, would justify a conviction.
Mr Howarth addressed the Court in reply.
The Jury brought in a verdict of Not Guilty, and the prisoners were discharged. -Otago Witness, 18/9/1863.
Anne Sherry is described by a Police Gazette as Irish, having been born in 1830, five feet four inches in height, with hazel eyes and a pale complexion. Peter Sherry is described as being Scottish, born 1821, a sawyer, 5 feet 6 inches, with fresh complexion, grey hair, hazel eyes, and, in 1881, paralysed on one side.
RESIDENT MAGISTRATE'S COURT.
Monday, 10th January. (Before R. H. Forinan, Hsq., R.M.)
Drunkenness. — The notorious Anne Sherry was charged with having been drunk at halfpast four this morning, with being a habitual drunkard, a prostitute, and a vagrant. She was sent to gaol for two months with hard labor. -Otago Daily Times, 12/1/1864.
Attempted Highway Robbery. — John Wilton and Peter Sherry were charged with feloniously assaulting William Moore, on the 3rd inst, in West Taieri road. Mr Branigan was not prepared to complete the case, but after giving some evidence he would ask for a remand. He would show that an assault had been committed, and that the prisoners were near the place at the time, and give other evidence to justify the remand. Sarah Gregg, licensee of the Shepherd's Arms Hotel, remembered seeing the prisoner Wilton on Thursday evening last, 3rd March, in the bar of her house. He was in company with another man, but not the prisoner Sherry. Wilton came about six o'clock, and remained till about nine o'clock.
In reply to Wilton, she did not remember any conversation relative to the Shotover, nor any other conversation they had.
Thomas Webb, living near the Robin Hood, heard cries of murder about 10 o'clock on Thursday night. He ran out and heard cries and loud talking about 200 or 300 yards higher up the road. He proceeded in that direction and saw two men coming towards him, and a man lying on the ground near them. He asked what the row was, addressing the two men. The man who was lying on the ground called out to witness, "Stick to them, mate, they've stuck me up and robbed me." Witness said, "I will." At this time the men had passed him, and he was then between the man on the ground and them. Witness turned to follow them, when the last of the two turned round, and presenting what witness believed to be a pistol, said, ''If you budge another inch I will blow your brains out." It was starlight, but it was dark to witness coming fresh from the light. The tallest man was dressed in dark clothes and had a muffler round his throat, and his height corresponded with that of the prisoner Wilton. The muffler was of a dark color, and the ends hung down before the chest. The lesser man was nearer to witness than the other, was dressed in dark clothes altogether, had a monkey jacket on with the collar turned up, but had no muffler. When the pistol was presented witness backed to the man on the ground, who then got up, and the prisoners then ran away. He could not swear to the prisoners, but in size and general appearance they very much resembled the men he met that night.
In reply to Sherry, witness said it was quite possible he had seen him before at different houses where he (witness) had been barman. The man resembling them was so muffled up that witness could not tell whether he was the man or not, and could not recognise the voice.
Mr Branigan said that was all the evidence he could offer then, and if the prisoners could prove where they were at the time named he would not press for their remand.
Wilton said he had been drinking at Miss Gregg's house and went home at 9 o'clock. After 9 o'clock he came home to his boarding-house in Dunedin.
Sherry said that he knocked off work about three o'clock, and then called on some friends. He remained with them from that hour till eleven o'clock, and he could produce five witnesses to prove that he was never out of the house or their sight during that time. The house in question was in Barracouta gully.
The magistrate remarked that this was only two or three minutes' walk from the spot where the assault was committed. All witnesses named by the prisoners should be summoned, but there was enough evidence to justify a remand.
Mr Branigan would only ask for a remand till Monday, and if he. then had not much better evidence he would not proceed with the case. -Otago Daily Times, 7/3/1864.
Peter Sherry was discharged, an another man arrested in his place for the crime.
Robbery from the Person. — Ann Sherry, informed against by Detective Johnson for having, on the 14th instant, stolen three L1 notes and one sovereign from the person of James Mitchell, was discharged for want of prosecution. Mr Ward appeared for the accused. -Otago Daily Times, 17/9/1864.
RESIDENT MAGISTRATE'S COURT.
Tuesday, 22nd August. (Before James Fulton, Esq., R.M.)
Drunk and Disorderly. — John Charles, George McDonald, John Keith, James Stevenson, and Patrick Norton, charged with having been drunk, were each fined 20s or 48 hours' imprisonment. Harriet Youle, charged with having used obscene language in Stafford street, was fined 20s. Ann Sherry pleaded guilty to creating a disturbance in Walker street, and was fined 40s or seven days' imprisonment. Peter Sherry was charged with a similar offence, and evidence was given that the prisoner was a very disorderly and idle character. He was fined 40s, or seven days' imprisonment. -Otago Daily times, 23/8/1865.
Wife Beating. — Peter Sherry was charged with having assaulted and beaten his wife Ann Sherry, alias Smith, on the 4th inst. The complainant's statement was that when she came home on the night of Monday last the prisoner was lying on the sofa. When she went to bed, he dragged her out and assailed her with an open razor. He cut her several times over the head, and when a female who was in the house interfered, he seized two porter bottles, and broke them over the complainant's head, cutting her severely over the left temple. She ran out of the house, and sought the protection of the constable on duty, but while she was going to the station the prisoner followed her and stabbed her in the side with a razor.
In cross-examination the complainant stated that early on the evening the assault took place she visited a house in George street, where the prisoner was in company with a woman who, she said, was named Davis, but who the prisoner said was his real wife. She denied having interfered with the prisoner there or struck this woman. For the defence this woman named Davis or Sherry was called, but upon her stating that she was the wife of the prisoner her evidence was not taken.
Another witness was called named Davis, who was in custody on a charge of vagrancy. He said he was present with the prisoner on the night in question, and he saw the two women, who claimed to be the prisoner's wives, fighting, and the complainant, who was drunk, was falling about among wood and against the wall. For the complainant rebutting evidence was called. Detective Farrell stated that on the night in question he saw the last witness in another part of the town at the hour mentioned by him. He was outside the complainant's house when he heard cries of "Murder," and on entering he saw the two wives and the prisoner all engaged in a stand-up fight. When he arrested the prisoner on the following day he found upon him a razor.
The Magistrate had no doubt that a very serious assault had been committed on the complainant, and he sentenced the prisoner to 14 days' imprisonment with hard labor. -Otago Daily Times, 8/9/1865.
RESIDENT MAGISTRATE'S COURT
Tuesday, 7th November. (Before A. C. Strode, Esq., R.M.)
Drunk and Disorderly. — John Cassey and William Auld, were each fined 20s or 48 hours' imprisonment, for having been drunk. Ann Sherry was charged with having used obscene, profane, and indecent language in Walker street, on Wednesday night last, and was fined 30s. and costs. Jane Smith was charged with having committed a similar offence in a right-of-way off Walker street, and as this was a very aggravated case, she was fined 40s and costs. -Otago Daily Times, 9/11/1865.
In the Mayor's Court yesterday, W. Murray and James Sullivan, for drunkenness, were each fined 10s, or 24 hours' imprisonment in default of payment. A charge against John Latty, of having assaulted James Neal, was dismissed. James R. Neill was charged with being the keeper of a disorderly house in Walker street, and was sent to gaol for two months with hard labor. Ann Campbell and Ann Sherry were charged under the Vagrant Ordinance with having no lawful visible means of support. The former defendant was sentenced to six weeks', and the latter to two months' imprisonment, each with hard labor. Michael McHugh, for disorderly conduct within the precincts of the Court, was sent to gaol for three days. -Otago Daily Times, 18/9/1866.
It is tempting to imagine that most of the offences dealt with in the above occurred in the same "disorderly house."
SUPREME COURT. — CRIMINAL SESSIONS.
(Before His Honor Mr Justice Richmond.)
Wednesday, 5th December. His Honor took his seat at ten minutes past ten o'clock.
ROBBERY FROM THE PERSON.
Ann Sherry was indited for having, on the 15th of September last, at Dunedin, stolen L20 from the person of' David Jenkins.
The Crown Prosecutor (the Hon. J. Prendergast) conducted the case for the prosecution; the prisoner was defended by Mr Kidsten.
The case for the prosecution was, that the prosecutor met the prisoner on the evening of the day in question, and went with her to her house in Walker street. While there he found that a Ll0 note on the Bank of New South Wales, and two L5 notes, had been taken out of a pocketbook from his pocket. He accused the prisoner of having taken the money and she did not deny it, but said, "As long as you say I have it, I will not give it up." He gave information to the police, and the prisoner was arrested. She was searched, but the money could not be found, and the charge of theft was not sustained. The prisoner was, however, sentenced to two months' imprisonment under the Vagrancy Act, and on her discharge from gaol, Detective Farrell re-arrested her, and on opening a pad she wore in her hair, found L20 in notes of a similar nature to those stolen. The prosecutor was cross-examined at considerable length by Mr Kidston, and he stated that he knew that he had been robbed of a Ll0 note of the Bank of New South Wales, became he had received it on the day of the robbery from a person named Wallace, and that he was in the habit of remarking what kind of notes he received. On being closely pressed, however, he said that he could not read the whole of the imprint upon a bank note, but could make out the large and plainly printed letters. He also admitted that he had spoken to Wallace respecting the notes before the money was found. Constable Baxter said that when the charge was first made against the prisoner the prosecutor did not seem to know on which Bank the notes were drawn, but he was in liquor at the time. James Walker stated that on the day in question he had paid the prosecutor a Ll0 note of the Bank of New South Wales. Detective Farrell said that when he arrested the prisoner, and found the money, she said that he must have received information from a woman who was in gaol at the time she was undergoing sentence. He also said that when escorting the prisoner the Resident Magistrate's Court, she made a confession, and detailed the means by which she concealed the money in spite of the strict searches made to discover it. In answer to Mr Kidston, the detective said he had not related this statement in giving evidence before the Magistrate. He had only answered questions that were put to him.
Mr Kidston, in defence, urged that the evidence should be taken with extreme caution, as it was not likely that the prisoner would have been such a fool as to make the statement sworn to. He also criticised the evidence given respecting the identity of the notes, and contended that the notes had not been identified.
The Judge said that if the detective's evidence was believed the jury could not hesitate as to the verdict. He did not altogether approve of the keeping back of evidence when in the Magistrate's Court, but in this case the prisoner could not have been injured, for if the statement of the detective was true she must have known that she made it.
The jury retired, and after an absence of a few minutes returned and brought in a verdict of Guilty. The prisoner was sentenced to two years' imprisonment with hard labor. -Otago Daily Times, 6/12/1866.
RESIDENT MAGISTRATE'S COURT.
Friday, September 25th
(Before A. Chetham-Strode, Esq., R.M.)
A Disorderly House. — Ann Sherry was charged with being the occupier of a house resorted to by reputed thieves and disorderly characters. Evidence was given, showing the prisoner to be of the most vicious character, and that her house was the constant scene of disorder and riot. The prisoner was sent to gaol for six months.
Vagrancy. — Peter Sherry, the husband of the last witness, was charged with being found in the company of reputed thieves. The evidence was to the effect that on Thursday evening, there were a number of thieves and women of ill fame in Ann Sherry's house, and after a long drinking-bout, there was a general row. The prisoner was one of the most disorderly, and the language he made use of was of the most revolting character. He was sentenced to three months' imprisonment with hard labor. -Otago Daily Times, 26/9/1868.
RESIDENT MAGISTRATE’S COURT.
This Day. (Before A. Chetham-Strode, Esq., E. M.)
DRUNK AND DISORDERLY. Annie Dunbar, for disorderly conduct, was sentenced to be imprisoned for fourteen days, she having been convicted thirty-three times previously. — Christina Lawson, for drunkenness, was fined 10s, or, in default, twentyfour hours’ imprisonment. — Peter Sherry was charged by Warder Ferguson, of the Gaol, with behaving in a disorderly manner, calculated to cause a breach of the peace. The Warder stated that he had charge of Sullivan, who was outside doing some work, and that the accused came out on the footpath, and used such abusive language as to excite the prisoner to such an extent as to render it necessary to take him inside the gaol. A crowd was gathering round, and another warder was called to take the accused into custody. Mr Ward endeavored to excuse the prisoner, on account of the character of Sullivan. The Magistrate, addressing the prisoner, said: Sullivan is bad enough — we all know that; but instead of your having such a determined “down” upon him, you ought to sympathise with him, for your character is as black as it can be. “Peter Sherry” is a household word in this Court, and even in Tasmania before you came here. Yon are a pretty fellow to call out to Sullivan. You are the last man who should upbraid him. You know that I consider this a very serious offence, endeavoring to excite a man in custody to such an extent that the constable could hardly hold him. I have had so many complaints of a similar character that I must put a stop to it. — The prisoner was fined L5, or, in default, to be imprisoned. -Evening Star, 25/6/1869.
RESIDENT MAGISTRATE’S COURT.
ROWDYISM, Ann Sherry and Ellen Duffy were charged with fighting in Stafford street on the afternoon of Saturday. From the evidence there appeared to have been a free fight amongst a number of abandoned women, one of whom had her leg broken in the row, and had to be taken to the hospital. The prisoners fought with each other, and tore hair from each other’s heads by handsful. They were each fined L5 or 14 days imprisonment. -Evening Star, 30/11/1869.
MAYOR'S COURT.
Thursday, 12th: January. (Before T. Birch, Esq., R.M., G. Turnbull, Esq., J.P.)
DRUNKENNESS AND DISORDERLY CONDUCT. William Willis and George Alexander were fined 5s and 10s respectively, each having the alternative of 24 hours' imprisonment. Ann Sherry, an incorrigible, who had been 19 times previously convicted, was sent to gaol for three months, with hard labour.
RESCUING A PRISONER. Charles O'Brian was charged with rescuing the prisoner Ann Sherry, from Constable Anderson, in Stafford street, on the morning of the 13th inst. She was afterwards re arrested. He was sentenced to six weeks' imprisonment, with hard labour, for this offence, and to an additional sentence of one month's imprisonment, with hard labour, on a charge of resisting the same constable in the execution of his duty. -Otago Daily Times, 14/1/1870.
Mayor's Court
Monday, 8th May. (Before His Worship the Mayor and J. Brown, Esq., J.P.)
Drunkenness and Vagrancy. — Robert Scott was, for being drunk on Sunday, fined 5s, with the alternative of 24 hours' imprisonment. Ann Sherry was charged with having used obscene language. She pleaded not guilty. Constable Anderson and two other witnesses gave evidence against her. Sergeant Thompson referred the Bench for testimony of her past character to the charge sheet. She said that if she got a chance she would leave for Sydney at once. Sergeant Thompson thought that if she did get a chance she would not make the slightest effort to leave town. She had had a chance since she came out of gaol last. His Worship said the Bench believed that she would not leave town if she had an opportunity of doing so. The language it was deposed she had used was some of the most filthy he had heard during the time he had sat on the Bench. She was sentenced to three months' imprisonment with hard labour. The accused pleaded guilty to a charge of drunkenness, and was sentenced to fourteen days' imprisonment, to be served on the completion of the other sentence. Mary Young, an old woman, was charged with being a vagrant. Constable Anderson deposed that he arrested the prisoner at Caversham on Saturday last. She was then wandering about there. She told him that she had been turned out of Ann Sherry's brothel, and had spent the previous night in the flax bushes, having nothing to eat or nowhere to go to. She is a known frequenter of brothels, and has been employed as a servant in such places. He had seen her in a home of ill-fame a few nights previous to arresting her. She had been convicted on a charge of being found in such a house. The accused said she had no friends here, but had in Nelson. If she were sent there she could get a home there. His Worship said the Bench had no means of sending her to Nelson. She was sentenced to a month's imprisonment. There was a charge of vagrancy against Alfred Douglas, but as it was considered that he was insane, he was remanded for medical examination. -Otago Daily Times, 9/5/1871.
KEEPING A DISORDERLY HOUSE. Harry Pearce alias the Meerschaum was charged with this offence. According to the evidence of Sergeant Anderson and Constable Turnbull, the prisoner in May last kept a house in Stafford street, in which were found one morning in that month, the notorious Ann and Peter Sherry, Margaret Robinson and Mary Rudens, notoriously bad characters, whom the Sergeant characterised as “the worst characters in Dunedin.” A summons was issued against the prisoner at the time, but he evaded service until yesterday, when he was arrested for contempt of Court. It transpired that he had been to Canterbury, but had been ordered away from that Province on short notice, and had since been living up country. As he expressed an intention of leaving the town, and as the police had no desire to press the charge if he would betake himself to honest employment, his Worship discharged the prisoner with a caution, reminding him that if he came before him again he would be severely punished. -Evening Star, 6/3/1872.
CITY POLICE COURT.
Thursday, August 28, (Before His Worship the Mayor, and Messrs J. Brown and A. J. Burns, Esq., J.P.’s.)
Drunkenness. — James McKenzie was fined 5s ; John Hornby, 10s,
Notorious Characters — Ann Sherry charged William Blackford with using insulting language to her on the 23rd inst. Mr Joyce appeared for complainant; Mr Wilson for defendant. — Complainant stated that she lived next door to defendant; and that on Saturday he used the language complained of, besides breaking the windows. By the Bench: Defendant was the worse of liquor. By Mr Wilson: She had also issued a summons against Mrs Blackford. — John Briggs: Was in complainant’s house between eight and nine o’clock on the night in question. Hearing foul language used, he went outside and saw it was defendant who was using it. Defendant took a sweep’s broom and broke complainant’s window. — This closed the case. Mr Wilson said if they looked at the other information, they would find that Mrs Blackford was charged with using language precisely similar to that of defendant; and he thought it very improbable — in fact, hardly possible — that two persons would use the same words. James Jeffs, lamplighter, was called, but his evidence was immaterial. — Mr Wilson asked that judgment might be reserved till the other case was heard. — Eliza Blackford was then charged with making use of obscene language to Anne Sherry on Saturday, August 23rd. Evidence was given by Sherry, who stated that defendant went to her door, and, getting a stick, broke it open, and then used language precisely similar to that used by defendant. Briggs corroborated her evidence. — Mr Wilson called Sub-Inspector Mallard to prove the various convictions received against the plaintiff. The Sub-Inspector said that so far as was known to the police, Mrs Sherry had been quiet for some time past. There was only one conviction against defendant, but against complainant they were numerous. The neighborhood in which the parties lived was anything but a peaceful one, and the fact was more particularly noticeable since complainant had gone there. Mr Bird, her landlord, had called on him and asked him to get her out. Defendant and Sherry were always quarrelling; in fact, he believed there was no difference between them. — After consulting for a short time, his Worship said the Bench were of opinion that in both cases the language had been used, and the defendants would be fined 10s and costs in each case. — Mr Joyce asked for professional costs (one guinea) which were allowed. — William Blackford was then further charged with breaking twelve panes of glass, of the value of 20s, in the house occupied by Ann in St Andrew street. — Complainant stated that at the time of the disturbance defendant took a stick resembling a sweep’s broom and broke her sash and windows — a new sash which she bought cost her I4s 6d. — (Mr Wilson asked witness if she was a married woman, but as she hesitated in answering, Mr Joyce said, “Tell him no.” — Mr Wilson: I am ashamed of you, Mr Joyce — (laughter) — I have practised thirty years; and neither in the Supreme Court nor any other have I heard a counsel prompt his client in that manner. — The witness eventually answered that she was not, but that she had lived with Sherry for nineteen years, and passed for his wife.) — This was the case. — Mr Wilson called Peter Sherry, a sawyer, who stated that he was informed by Briggs that the windows in his house had been broken by defendant. He stopped at home that night. Complainant was not his wife, although she went under the name of Mrs Sherry. — Defendant was ordered to pay 14s 6d, the damage done, 5s fine, and costs of Court. — Mr Wilson said he had a memorial to present from residents in the neighborhood, asking that complainant might be removed. He had not given it while the case was on, because it did not relate to it. — Mr Joyce had little doubt that if the matter were allowed to rest a couple of days he would be able to get one, asking to have the Blackfords removed. — Mr Blackford: “Never! never!” — His Worship requested Mr Mallard to see to the matter. -Evening Star, 28/8/1873.
Keeping a Brothel. — Anne Sherry was charged with keeping a house frequented by persons of ill fame. — Sergeant Colder said that prisoner’s house was visited by all the lower prostitutes in the town, and by convicted thieves. He had cautioned her before. On going to the house on the previous day he saw her there with the woman Forbes, and she was “mad-drunk.” He thought it unsafe to leave her there, from the exhibitions she had previously made of herself when under the influence of drink. —Sergeant Hanlon said that prisoner’s place was an accommodation house for the “lower orders;” and that it was always open to them. — Prisoner denied the charge, saying no man or woman besides herself had slept under her roof for months past. She further stated that the woman Forbes had only been in the house two or three minutes when the constable came in — She was sentenced to three months’ imprisonment with hard labor.
— Frank O’Brien: I am a police-constable stationed in Dunedin. The robbery of Ah Ming was reported to me at about two o’clock yesterday afternoon. Acting on the information I received, I accompanied the prosecutor to the house occupied by Ann Sherry, in St. Andrew street. The prisoner was there, and both were under the influence of drink. ("Both" being the prisoner and the prosecutor) I charged the prisoner with the robbery, which she denied. She acknowledged having been in the prosecutor’s house that morning. On searching her I found the handkerchief, which is the one identified by the prosecutor as taken from his pocket. Prisoner had a long conversation with the prosecutor, endeavoring to compromise the matter by offering him a pound. — Sub-Inspector Mallard said the prisoner was searched by the female searcher on being brought to the station, but no money was found on her. Of course he did not expect to find any, as she was too old a thief not to know better. — John Golder: I am a sergeant in charge of the police, stationed at North Dunedin. On going to Ann Sherry’s house yesterday I saw the last witness, the prosecutor, the prisoner and Sherry, I was present when the prisoner was about to leave the house, and I had my attention called to her. She was apparently about to take a purse from her pocket and hand it to Ann Sherry; after which I observed her keep groping in her pocket, as if endeavoring to find something. She made some remarks about a purse, but was too drunk for me to understand what she meant. — This closed the case. The Bench had no doubt that the accused had stolen the handkerchief, but as there was not sufficient evidence to support a conviction, dismissed the charge. — Sub-Inspector Mallard asked that the other charge, viz., that of vagrancy, might then be proceeded with. — Sergeant Golder said that he had had an opportunity of watching the prisoner during the last six or seven weeks, and that she occasionally had intervals of sobriety. During the time he had known her she had not gained her living, honestly, but by prostitution. — She was sentenced to three mouths’ imprisonment. -Evening Star, 16/9/1873.
At the Police Court yesterday, a notorious character named Ann Sherry was committed to Gaol for a month for keeping a brothel; and Mary Forbes, who narrowly escaped a conviction for theft, was sentenced to three months imprisonment, on a charge of vagrancy. -Otago Daily Times, 17/9/1873.
RESIDENT MAGISTRATE'S COURT
Saturday, June 13th. (Before J. Bathgate, Esq., R.M.)
A Degraded Creature.— Ann Sherry, of vagabondish notoriety, was again charged with being a vagrant, to which she pleaded Not Guilty. Constable Gilbert arrested her on the previous evening in George street, on account of her riotous conduct and obscene language. Sergeant Bevan had known accused many years as a low prostitute. He produced a list of previous convictions against her for vagrancy. Prisoner made most insulting remarks to the Sub-Inspector of Police, challenging him to account for his whereabouts on certain nights, making accusations which cast ridicule upon him; and although the Sub-Inspector did not reply, the Bench made no attempt to interfere. On being sentenced to 12 months' imprisonment she made a gross personal allusion, which induced two indignant policemen to bundle her off without more ado. -Otago Daily Times, 15/6/1874.
Dunedin rejoices in a notorious drunken vagrant by name Ann Sherry, and it seems that the last time this delectable lady appeared before Mr Bathgate was on a day when the rival lawyers Smith and Barton had a "passage of arms." To vindicate her injured reputation, Miss Sherry writes a letter from H.M.'s Gaol to the editor of above journal as follows: — Sir, — I see by your issue of this morning, which has been, along with pens, ink, and paper, supplied to me by Mr Caldwell, that you have associated my name with the disgraceful scene which took place between Mr James Smith and Mr G. E. Barton, in the Resident Magistrate's Court, on Saturday. I strongly protest against such an unwarrantable liberty being taken with my name, as on no occasion have I had any connection with those gentlemen or their disputes; and I beg you will, with your usual courtesy to the sex, extend to a lady, at present under a temporary cloud, this opportunity of dissociating herself from the unfortunate consequences of being "had up" on the same day as that upon which the row between the legal gentlemen above referred to took place. I am, &c., Ann Sherry, Dunedin Gaol, Monday." -Lake County Press, 26/6/1874.
CITY POLICE COURT.
Tuesday, Februaby 22. (Before Y. Pyke, R.M., and W. J. M. Larnach, Esq., J.P.)
Drunkenness. Margaret McQuaid and George Ruffles were each fined 5s, in default twenty-four hours’ imprisonment.
Soliciting Prostitution. Ann Sherry, an old offender, was charged with this offence in Maclaggan street last night. Mr E. Cook defended. — Constable Hanshaw stated that about 9.30 p.m. yesterday he observed prisoner leave a house in Maclaggan street, cross over the footpath, accost a man, and endeavored to get him into the house. As he hesitated she again urged him to go into the house, saying it was only an old cavern. — Inspector Mallard asked whether the Bench would require evidence as to the prisoner's antecedents. — Mr Pyke: The things necessary to be proved under the Act are first that the prisoner is a common prostitute, and secondly that she did importune. Evidence had only been given as to the solicitation. — Sergeant-Major Bevin stated that he had known prisoner for twelve years. She was the notorious Ann Sherry, and sometimes lived with a man known as Peter Sherry. She was a notorious prostitute, and as soon as she was out of gaol the was in again She was a most expert thief, and on one occasion some money she had stolen was found secreted in her hair after she came out of gaol — Sergt. Hanlon had known prisoner thirteen or fourteen years, during which time he had always known her as a prostitute. She had kept brothels and for some years with the proprietor of a brothel in St. Andrew street. She was in gaol nine or ten months out of the year. — Mr Cook having commented on the evidence, the Court heard that common repute was sufficient proof of the character of the woman, and sentenced the prisoner to one month’s imprisonment, with hard labor — the utmost penalty which could be imposed under the clause of the Act under which prisoner was charged. -Evening Star, 22/23/1876.
CITY POLICE COURT.
Thursday, June 8. (Before V. Pyke, Esq., J.P.)
Drunkenness. — Thomas Draper and Chas. Sutherland were each fined 5s, or, in default, twenty-four hours' imprisonment; Chas. Martell, 10s or three days.
Illegally on the Premises. — Jane Delmore was charged with having been found at night in the house of John Kelly, without lawful excuse. Prisoner was found in an empty house in South Dunedin at 10.30 p.m. The house was a new one, and prisoner was in a half-drunken state. She was an abandoned character. The Bench sentenced her to forty-eight hours’ imprisonment:
Receiving Stolen Property. — Ah Him was charged with receiving a quantity of copper, knowing it to be stolen. Mr F. R. Chapman, who defended, asked for an adjournment. — Inspector Mallard stated that the police, in executing a search-warrant in accused’s house, recovered the stolen property. — A remand till Wednesday next was granted.
Stealing Copper. John Brown was charged with stealing the copper found in last prisoner’s possession. This case was likewise adjourned till Wednesday. — Inspector Mallard stated that the police on executing the search-warrant in Ah Him’s house had found a quantity of lead bearing several brands, and they hoped by giving publicity to the matter to find owners for the property.
Vagrancy. Ann Sherry was charged with having no lawful means of support. — Mr Lewis defended, and pleaded not guilty. — His Worship held that the law called on the accused to prove a negative —that she had means of support. — Mr Lewis submitted that it was a monstrous thing for any person to be called upon to answer to a charge of this description without a prima facie case being first made out.— His Worship said it was a literal construction of the Act, but if counsel wished it he had no objection to hearing the evidence on behalf of the police first, but he unhesitatingly stated that be paid no attention to it, and relied solely on the statement of the accused. The onus of the proof rested on the accused. — Sergeant Dean and Detective Bain deposed to having visited a house off King street on the 2nd inst. occupied by the accused, and in which with her Anne Cameron, Jane Blackie, and Rose Jackman. Detective Bain stated that to the best of his belief accused was maintained by the keeping of prostitutes and prostituting herself. — In defence, accused produced her bank-book, which showed that she had drawn from the Bank Ll5 10s within the last six weeks. She received 16s a week from one Sherry. — The charges against Anne Cameron, Jane Blackie, and Rose Jackman were next taken. Blackie pleaded that she had L70 when she came here two years ago, and that she received L30 from her husband, who was a sailor, some six weeks ago. Jackman said she had a husband in Dunedin, but was not living with him. — His Worship said that in the absence of a marriage-certificate the husband should have been produced: he could not accept a mere assertion. Cameron, in pitiful tones, stated that she got money from the governor. On being pressed as to what governor she referred to, she admitted that it was the governor of the gaol, under whose care she had been for fourteen days, The police records shows that all four women were convicted thieves, and Cameron were sentenced to two months’ imprisonment; Jackman and Sherry to three months. -Evening Star, 8/6/1876.
Ann Sherry, against whom there were ninety previous convictions, was remanded until Wednesday to allow her a chance of clearing out of Dunedin. -Evening Star, 13/9/1880.
The well-known Ann Sherry, who has been residing in Oamaru for several months, in consequence of an order by the magistrates of this City, was received into the Gaol to-day from Oamaru, under sentence of one calendar month’s imprisonment, with hard labor, for acts of indecency at Oamaru. -Evening Star, 28/12/1880.
ATTEMPTED SUICIDE. Ann Sherry was charged with having attempted to drown herself on the Oamaru beach.
John Ross deposed that he saw accused going towards the beach with her hands over her head, and she walked into the sea until the water knocked her down. Witness went in after her, and with the assistance of a boy named Robert McCusker, brought her out and placed her on a bank. She afterwards made another attempt to go in but was stopped by McCusker. A number of persons assembled on the spot and accused went away.
Prisoner promised to leave the town if an opportunity were given her to do so, and she was discharged on that understanding. -North Otago Times, 26/2/1881.
At the Resident Magistrate's Court today, before S. E. Shrimski and J. W. Humphrey, Esq.'s, J.P.'s, three first offenders for having been drunk and disorderly were mulcted in the usual penalties. Ann Sherry was charged under the Vagrancy Act with behaving in a riotous and disorderly manner. The accused had previously been charged 54 times in the Colony for various offences. On the 24th December last she received a month's imprisonment for vagrancy. On the 25th ult. she was charged with attempting to commit suicide, and was discharged on the condition that she left Oamaru. She did so, but returned again, and was yesterday arrested. She was then drunk, and struck the constable several times. Sergeant-Major Thompson said that under the present charge the accused as a prostitute and an incorrigible rogue was liable to 12 months' imprisonment. Her character was so bad that she was compelled to leave Dunedin, and he repeatedly had told her to leave Oamaru. Mr. Shrimski: She will now go hack to Dunedin. You will be sentenced to six months' imprisonment with hard labor. -Oamaru Mail, 3/3/1881.
A female named Ann Sherry, was fined £3 by the Dunedin Bench last week for having imbibed so much sherry, or some other liquor, that she became too merry. The poor creature had been convicted on a similar charge 91 times previously. -Bruce Herald, 16/8/1881.
CITY POLICE COURT.
Saturday, October 7.
(Before J. Logan, Esq., J.P., and J. McNeil, Esq., J.P.)
A Bad Case. — Ann Sherry was charged on the information of Peter Sherry with assaulting him on the 5th inst. There were eighty eight previous convictions against the accused, and the charge having been heard, a further charge was preferred of her being an incorrigible rogue and a vagabond and having no lawful visible means of support. — Sergeant Gearin gave evidence as to the character of the accused, who is one of the worst characters in the town; and Sergeant Bevin and Constable Smith deposed as to arresting her, when she behaved in a most violent manner. — Sergeant Bevin stated that he had known the woman for the last twenty years, during which time she had continually been under the supervision of the police, and had been one of the vilest women about the town. — The accused asked to be allowed to leave the town, but the Bench were of opinion that if out of gaol she would be a nuisance both to herself and the community, and she was sentenced to two years' imprisonment in Dunedin Gaol. -Evening Star, 7/10/1882.
Ann Sherry, who has a police record during her lengthened career in Otago almost equal to that of the wretched Mary Allen, was brought up at the Police Court on Saturday and sentenced to two years' imprisonment, for being, as the police charge put it, "an incorrigible rogue and vagabond, and without visible lawful means of support." No less than 88 previous convictions had been recorded against her for various offences, including vagrancy and larceny. -Otago Witness, 14/10/1882.
Ann Sherry, lady of regular habits, convicted 48 times, wrote to the papers from the gaol to say that, though she had her faults, she objected to be made to witness such conduct and listen to such language as went on between the lawyers when she had occasion to attend the Court on business!
Yet they say if laymen are admitted as advocates they will turn the Court into a bear-garden.
That won't wash!
Then they say if the examination in conundrums and dead languages is dispensed with, a low class of people will become lawyers and will fleece the people!
Why, pretty well all the rascality in the country is done by lawyers now!
Let's go snacks, my learned friends! We don't want to wipe you out altogether — but share and share alike's fair play!
Doesn't it occur to you that honesty and dishonesty, and competency and incompetency; are just about as evenly distributed out of the profession as in it?
Oh, quite, so! Human nature isn't altered by passing a cram examination in the Satires of Horace and the second book of Euclid! -Colonist, 30/6/1885.
A woman who had against her name seventy-five convictions for various offences appeared at the Police Court this morning to answer to a charge of being the occupier of a disorderly house. Before her case was brought up she was a witness in a vagrancy case before the Court, and she was called on by the name entered down in the chargesheet as being hers, namely, Ann Sherry. This name, which probably to the witness smacked of commonness, was indignantly rejected by her as being "only a police name." Her right name, she proudly asserted with a toss of the head and a dignified look in the direction of Sergeant-major Bevin, was Angelina Smith, She appeared, too, to have had a romantic career for she informed the Bench that "a dirty dog took her away from home when she was seventeen years of age"; and furthermore (according to her own statement) her husband had been a gentleman and a Judge. These random shots to gain the sympathy of the gentlemen on the Bench did not prove of much avail, their Worships considering that giving her three months' incarceration would be conducive to the comfort of the public. On hearing the sentence the woman made a desperate rush and caught hold of Sergeant Geerin, who had been a witness against her, and, while using opprobrious epithets, did her best to belabor him with her fist. Superior strength prevailed, however, and she was removed, still struggling, from the Court. -Evening Star, 26/3/1886.
Assault. The charge against Peter Sherry and Mary Sullivan, for having, on the 25th inst., unlawfully beaten Angelina Smith, was dismissed, prosecutrix not appearing. -Evening Star, 30/12/1887.
Neighbors’ Quarrels. — Angelina Smith alias Ann Sherry was charged with using provoking language towards Jeannie Knight, who also asked that defendant be bound over to keep the peace. — Complainant stated that defendant, who lived alongside of her, had smashed her windows and struck her with a piece of wood. — The defendant alleged that Mrs Knight had assaulted her and stolen her underclothing. — The defendant was fined costs of Court (7s), and was ordered to find sureties to keep the peace for three months — herself in the sum of Ll0 and one surety for L5. -Evening Star, 11/11/1890.
Alleged House-breaking. — George Bowden was charged with breaking into the dwelling house of Ann Sherry and stealing therefrom wearing apparel, bedding, and other household articles, to the total value of £26. — Sergeantmajor Bevin stated that Ann Sherry had got into trouble some time ago and was sent to gaol for three months. She locked up her house, containing the property mentioned in the information, together with other articles, and when she was discharged on October 30 she found that the house had been entered and the articles stolen. Mrs Sherry noticed some of the property in a general dealer's shop, and information being given to the police Sergeant Brown made some inquiries, the result of which was that the accused was charged with the offence. The accused was already in prison awaiting his trial for a similar offence, and he was brought before the court by an order made under the Prisons Act. Ann Sherry gave evidence that on the 31st July last she lived in Chalmers place. She got into trouble on that date, and went to gaol. She locked up the property mentioned in the information in her house, and when she was released from prison on October 30 she found that the property had been taken out of the place. Some of the property had not been recovered. She did not give anyone authority to remove the articles. — Mary Ann Keesham and Maggie Sequee also gave evidence. — Henry Chessell, secondhand dealer, said that the articles mentioned in the information had been sold to him by the accused. Witness gave him 35s for the lot. Accused said at the time he was selling them for a woman who had been on the "booze," and whose husband was either in Melbourne or Sydney. —Sergeant Brown also gave evidence, after which the case for the prosecution was closed. — Accused, who said he would reserve his defence, was then committed for trial. -Otago Daily Times, 17/11/1891.
Bowden eventually pleaded guilty and was given two years' with hard labour. And this seems to be the last newspaper appearance of Ann Sherry, aka Smith. What happened to her? She may have left the country. She may have assumed a different identity in a different city.
Our Dunedin Letter
It isn't often that a garrotting case occurs in our respectable city, but such a one took place in the loneliest part of King street early last week, on a clear moonlight night. The victim was a man named Peter Sherry, himself an old thief, as he subsequently admitted in court. He had been drinking during the day with some chums, among whom were two named Palser and Davis, and on a bet taking place about the date of the Ballarat riots, he foolishly pulled from his pocket a purse of notes, which he flaunted before his mates. When he was returning to his home about 11 o'clock at night a man named Palser came up in front, of him, and taking hold of his head forced it back, while at the same time Davis came up behind and threw his arm round his neck, garrotting him; in other words, choking him. They then tore his pocket out of his trousers and made off. In the pocket were two purses, containing a number of rings, earrings, and a chain, in all of the value of Ll0, and L7 5s in money. Both men have been committed for trial. -Clutha Leader, 14/4/1893.
CITY POLICE COURT.
Wednesday, September 4. (Before Messrs J. P. Jones and C. Allan, J.Ps.)
DRUNKENNESS. — Mary Keesham, with two previous convictions, and Peter Sherry, with six previous convictions, who were in company with each other when arrested, were each fined 5s, with the alternative of 24 hours' imprisonment. — Annie Smith, against whom there were four previous convictions, two of which were within the past six months, and Esther Maria Montague, who had been twice previously convicted, were each fined 10s, the alternative in the first case being seven days' imprisonment, and in the second 48 hours. -Otago Daily Times, 6/9/1895.
Despite her proximity with Peter Sherry, it is doubtful that Annie Smith and Ann Sherry are the same woman. She was too well known by the court and its reporters to go unnoticed as herself.
ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES
A little boy named Arthur Morris was playing with a powder flask at Christchurch yesterday when it exploded, and he sustained very serious injuries about the head.
Peter Sherry, an old man, suffering from paralysis, was sitting on the edge of the wharf last evening, when, by some means, he fell into the water. He was picked up by a boat and removed to the hospital for treatment. -Evening Star, 25/10/1895.
Peter Sherry here disappears from the record. There is a Peter Sherry in an unmarked grave in Dunedin's Southern Cemetery, who died in 1898, aged 70. I'd say there's a good chance it is him, and it tallies with the previous story.
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